PlentyOfFish review
PlentyOfFish. Free online dating. Are there really plenty of fish on the site, or is it worth what you pay for it?
My first impression of this site was that it was really easy to set up a profile. It’s a two-page sign-up process; the first page asks you what you’d like to be called, what country you are from, your password, and similar. The second page is where you add information about yourself; the form is not very long, and you are asked not only about yourself, but also what you would do on a first date, and for a list of your interests. You are also asked for your photo. You don’t have to upload a photo, but it’s always recommended to do so, if you have a good one; you may find our article on good profile photos of interest. The image is sized to 179 x 250 pixels, generous compared to most dating sites, and a small PlentyOfFish logo is superimposed at the bottom-left.
My preferred headline is in the form of a question, and I noticed that the question mark was stripped from it. It appears that there is a size limitation of 40 characters for your headline. I changed it to a shorter statement with an exclamation mark and that worked fine.
On to the most important part of the site: the search. Do they have people in my local area? Although the site accepts members from many parts of the world, it is geared towards USA residents, so I suspect that there is a greater inventory of US profiles than for other countries. I was shocked to find no profiles within 100 miles of where I live. I didn’t believe that could be right, and I decided to remove my post code from the “Zip Code” box. This did the trick, but there were still only 37 profiles of women between the ages of 18 and 30 within 100 miles of Cardiff, the city in which I live. It soon became apparent that all of these profiles were in fact Cardiff residents, so it appears that the search within 100 miles of your target area doesn’t work for UK residents, and I would hazard a guess that it only works for USA searches. Indeed, when I searched for Newport results (the nearest city to Cardiff, about 10 miles away), I got a whole different search page, giving 17 more results. This shouldn’t stop you using the service; it’s just something to bear in mind.
Photos tend to be squashed either vertically or horizontally on this page; I don’t believe I saw any photos that had the right aspect ratio. I would suggest that if you’re uploading your own photograph, you aim to use the right size for your main profile page (179 x 250, as stated above). The pictures on the search page are 75 x 75 pixels. It’s a shame they didn’t maintain the aspect ratio, as then the pictures would not have looked squashed. You can upload up to eight pictures. Photos are reviewed for nudity, and people who upload nude photographs get their account deleted.
By going to your profile page, you can also search for people that share your interests by clicking on links there. This didn’t seem to be very useful, as the search returned worldwide results, and it wasn’t possible to filter it to local results.
Some profiles use crass language on this site, so expect to see it. There’s no way to report it. If you’re looking to avoid bad language completely, the only way to do it is to use a paid dating service; see our review category for more details.
You will not be asked for any money to use this service. It’s entirely sponsored by advertising. The advertising is unobtrusive, consisting of high-quality AdSense ads; the same as used by this site. Sites running AdSense are not allowed to use intrusive pop-ups or pop-unders that are the bane of many a web browsers’ experience.
PlentyOfFish has extremely active forums that are moderated by volunteers. If you participate in these, you get further exposure; your photo is shown to the left of each post. There are well over a million posts on the complete site at the time of writing, and they cover everything from dating tips, though cooking and humour, to politics!
I will add comments detailing the number of responses that I get on the live profile that I’ve set up. In the mean time, I would suggest that the site is well worth registering for! Whether you write a profile now or later, you need to spend the time to do that, so it’s worth trying out your profile on a free site first. If you try PlentyOfFish or have tried it, feel free to share your experiences here!
pof [Plentyoffish] is a fascist site, admin will delete one for any reason, I swear the admin reads the people’s mail on the site. Favoritism rules in the forums. Admin puts down users publicly in the forums. Interesting site but is poorly run from a clienteles point of view. Mods are more than likely paid, it is probably only said the mods are volunteers to prop up the facade that the admin is running the site altruistically.
The forums are censored and pruned arbitrarily. Site moderators are heavy-handed. Threads and individual posts vanish with no warning or explanation. New people sign on, begin to get to know each other, start having fun, and then the moderators scold and banish people for not following rules. Or for asking questuons. Or for speaking up against the unfriendly tone. The result is a hard-core set of regulars who help as minions and snitches, tattling on other users. The best and brightest notice what is happening then leave in disgust for more amicable surroundings. It’s like a bad chat room combined with your favorite neighborhood dive. It’s a great place to waste time if you enjoy rancor and pettiness.
John, thanks for your comment. You’ve obviously had a bad experience with PlentyOfFish!
I seriously doubt the administrators read private mail on the site, unless they are investigating a complaint such as spamming. I haven’t used the forums, so I can’t comment about them. I do know that it’s a very popular site.
Whereas the site is free, the staff (all two of them, as far as I know) make a large amount of money every month from on-site advertising, so your comment about the staff representing themselves as altruistic is probably true.
Does anybody else have any experiences, good or bad, with PlentyOfFish?
Paul, your comment was caught up in the system for a while. It’s a shame that people seem to be generally having bad experiences with the PlentyOfFish forum.
I have been using the site for three years now. I haven’t found who i am looking for yet. The site from a mans point of view consists mainly of a great number of divorced women with children, which is alright if that is what your looking for, but i am not. So i use it mainly for the forums for now, which cover a variety of topics. The only advice i can give you is to follow the rules on the forums or your profile can be deleted. I find the moderators have favorites, so you dont stand a chance in a debate with them.Also those favorites wont hesitate to snitch on you, so make friends with them, if they will let you. If you dont become a favorite be careful what you say. As for me, i am not a favorite, i like to speak my mind.
Thank you, Pete! It’s good to hear these real opinions, especially if the PlentyOfFish forums contain a lot of censorship. It’s a real shame that this is obviously the case; the only comments I have had to my article above have been about this; and I hope it’s something that Markus Frind will seriously seek to address. I’m sure he’s losing out on popularity and revenue with his site because of it.
Also, if the site mainly contains divorced women with children, I agree that that will not be attractive to the bulk of men. I wouldn’t be looking for this type of woman.
David just to add. I want everybody to know what happened to me. I was in a debate in the forums with a divorced woman with kids over an issue. The next morning my profile was deleted. I was given no notice, no reason, no opportunity to check my mail or delete it or respond back to mail . I opened up another profile under a name close to the one i had and i found out my profile was deleted by a moderator who happened to be a divorce women with kids. She gave me no explanation to this day. Imagine your mail delivery person , taking your mail box away with your mail in it, thats basically the same what happened to me on that site. Its an invasion of your privacy and no courtesy for the user.That just shows that the majority of divorced women with kids rules on that site.
The people complaining above were banned for creating a lot of fake profiles and nearly 50 complaints from users, putting them in the top 10 all time pests. You can see they tried to spam wikipedia and alexa to and basically every site on the net that allowed posting.
There is no staff, and the handful of moderators have no power other then deleting forum threads and preventing users from posting. Nearly 80% of the threads deleted per day are done by the million + mini mods. Ie 7/10 of them need to agree on deleting a thread before it gets nuked.
All in all my approach is the only way forums work on dating sites. Its no big coincidence that all free dating sites to date have copied my forums and TOS to a letter. Also lets put some perspective on this, several hundred thousand people access/use the forum a month of those less then ~15 get banned a month. Also there are only 4 moderators who watch 200+ forums in their spare time, given the 10’s of thousands of posts per day does anyone really think they even review a tiny fraction of it?
First of all Markus, my profile was not deleted because it was fake and/or because of spam. My profile was very much real and serious, but it doesnt matter anymore now. You say your moderators have no power except for deleting threads and preventing postings…..well to me that is a lot of power and you can basically shut someone out. Now POF [PlentyofFish] is a good site but needs improvement when it comes to moderators. Maybe you dont see the favoritism and abuse of power that goes on. Not to long ago i read on the site that a male moderator was abusing a female user by sending her pictures of his penus.I know the pictures were deleted and the moderator was removed and banned from the site when it was found out. But what concerns me is the stuff you dont know about. I would like to suggest that you change moderators frequently and use some that are single ,never married, no kids ….these kind of people have less worry and problems, that they wont take it out on POF users.Do away with your mini mods as they are the ones that are destryoying POF.Someone should also provide an explanation as to why a profile was deleted because i am sure mistakes also happen and there is always two sides to a disagreement. And lastly check up on your moderators to see if they are ganging up together on users, nothing worse then an abuse of authority.Good luck with the site i hope it lasts.
It seems to me that there will always be problems running a site as large as PlentyOfFish, and perhaps the only comments that have been posted here have been from those people affected. Has anyone had some good experiences with PlentyOfFish? Perhaps you would care to add to the comments!
Many thanks, Markus, for adding your own comment here.
it seems to me that this site has some issues when it comes to the im, i havent been on for about 2-3 weeks and then yesterday went on to check and see whats up and who’s new and chat with some of my friends, well, to no avail i couldn’t get a response from any of the ladies in my area, never had that problem b4, so i called a friend and had her sign on and then tried to im her, nothing, she was getting no pop up window, so then i had her try to im me, still nothing, so we put each other on favorites list after that she could im me and i would get a window but if i started the im she still didnt have anything come up, seems to me like the women could start the im and i could respond back, but if i started the im, she would have nothing pop up, something seems fishy, no pun intended, so in other words, whether if had a woman on my fav or not i cant get a single woman to respond anymore like i used to with no problem, they are not seeing any im i send them, ive seen in the forum that other guys are havin the same problem, its not my computer or programs causin this cause i had a female friend get on my computer and when she logged in she has no problem but when i log in still cant get any responses from the women, nothing comes up on there side, i have my pop-up blockers off, still no response from these woman, what gives???
The dating part on plentyoffish is fine. You can meet people you want without paying a dime. BUT, the moderators on the forums abuse their power. They delete profiles of users, even someone who has been their for years without any warning. My profile got deleted because four users complained I was under 18. When in fact, I am about to turn 20. There was no way I could prove my age. That would not have done any good either because my profile was already deleted just based on hear say without any warning. There are also what you can call “regular posters gang” whose words are taken to be as truthful because the lick the feet of the “mod gods” . Also, if you ask why your profile was deleted , there is a very good chance of your profile being deleted without warning or you not be able to make any forum post for as long as 30 years.
All in all, I’d have to conclude by saying that, if you become a sycophant, you can post on the forums as long as you want and can even break rules. But if you try to rebel, you are out without any warning.
Thanks.
I did forget to mention something else. One of the moderators did contact me and sent me a threat mail. He lives in a state close to mine. He emailed me once, disagreeing with something I had said on the forums. I deleted his mail without responding because someone had already warned me to not argue with the mod gods ever. He sent me a second email which was very much sexually explicit. Which in the real world could be called “sexual harassment”. Well….I deleted this mail again. So, the next thing I know, I’m banned from the forums for 20 years! There was no reason given at all. And it was done by the same moderator that sent me that email! I did not make a complaint to the admin, because I was already told by a friend on pof [PlentyofFish] that it would not help and my profile would probably get deleted if I did that.
The only thing I want to say is, there is a lot of favoritism on that site. It’s almost like living during the second world war in Germany. Too many [censored] and [censored] there.
My advice would be to never venture into the forums. Just stay on the dating site and meet people. If you join the forums , you will get addicted and when you get addicted , you eventually will have to turn into a sycophant. If you are someone who speaks your mind, STAY OUT OF THE FORUMS FOR YOUR OWN GOOD.
Raksha, thanks very much for your comment about your experiences with PlentyOfFish, but please keep your comments in perspective. Use analogies by all means, but comparing the forum to what happened during the second world war is not going to be very accurate or helpful, and could upset people; that’s why I’ve had to censor your comment. However, I appreciate the weight of your obvious strong feelings on the matter.
It seems to me that your most appropriate courses of action on having received the emails would have been to contact the police, given the nature of the emails you appear to have received. If you were felt that you were harrassed sexually, then this certainly should have been done. The net is part of the real world.
Be assured that I appreciate the advice you offer the readers, and hopefully it will benefit them.
Very nice work of Markus he made a site and made some money, it is really great that someone does it all by himself (or with a little help)
I also made a site to get in contact with people, date,… all by myself called Me Tarzan You Jane http://www.MeTarzanYouJane.eu
And no I’m not a company, and yes I also started this to learn some aspx. I normally programmed asp but wanted to change to a newer more powerfull language.
The site has it’s share of members in Europe but the rest of the world can also follow now because everything is translated in english.
So guys and girls if you want some real honest site, no fake entries, blogs on the internet just real stuff then support me and sign yourself and your friends up. All free.
Not happy, then contact me via the site and let me know what bothers you and most of the time in the past after hearing something I also implemented new wishes or enhanced the site.
I’m sorry for making references to censored words. I think I got carried away. Therefore, I apoligize. Anyway, my point is, the dating part of plentyoffish is fine. But the administration have to do something about the moderators who love playing God there. When someone tries to speak against them, they get banned. There is no freedom of speech there no matter how much you follow the given rules. I agree with Pete with whatever he said.
Thanks.
I’ve read these posts about POF [PlentyofFish] with tears running down my face. And Markus, if you believe what you say then you’re on a different planet to the rest of us. It would seem like everybody here is wrong and only Markus is right. (bear in mind that Markus is the owner and claims to earn $10,000 a day from Adsense ads) POF is badly run by heavy handed moderators with dual standards. One set of rules for them (and thier friends) and another set for everybody else.
PlentyOfFish was a waste of time as far as I’m concerned. I believe there are bucketloads of fake profiles on there, and I turned out to be one of them in the end.
I’m a guy. I joined up with a totally honest profile, waited the three days before you’re allowed to post in the forums, and got posting. I ‘got-to-know’ lots of people over a three month period but I never received a single PM message from a female in all that time.
I then registered a second account, same details as my male account, but as a female. I waited the three days before being allowed to post. In those three days I had over 1,000 PM messages from males, most just wanting sex, and it was impossible to read the forums because of the constant IM message screens that kept popping from more guys. As far as I’m concerned it’s a waste of time.
I saw lots of people deleted for the same fake reasons you’ve just mentioned, multi accounts (I had two but mine weren’t deleted), advertising links, porn and all those untruthful reasons that show up in a deleted person’s profile search. I know some of those people from other forums and it’s just not true. They are real and behave properly on other sites.
Wake up.
It’s a real shame about PlentyofFish.
If you’ve had a problem with PoF, perhaps you could do me a favour? If you’re still looking for a date, I’ve just started my own free dating site, and it could really use some profiles!
Cheeky monkey dating is the name of the site. I’ve submitted a press release that will get published today, and it should get the site some real traffic soon, so it may well be worth your while doing this.
It might also interest you to know that I’ve written a list of free online dating sites from a blog post that I found on the web recently, so feel free to sign up with those as well.
Probably the best free dating site on which to list is going to be OkCupid, and I have written an OkCupid review here. It’s got a lot of profiles in it, but I have to say that it’s a little weird in its approach.
Hi David, thanks for the reply. I took a look at Cheeky Monkey and I’ll make up my mind a little later. These free dating sites can be very good and may well be the future. Nobody likes all those pop-ups and posting restrictions on paid sites. I wish you all the luck in the world with it.
I just hope these posts have been useful to you in deciding how to moderate it. POF may well be the biggest at the moment, but the bad moderation could well be it’s downfall. There are many more sites popping up these days. I’m registered with a few and the best ones are those that are fairly moderated. They could well steal POF’s thunder.
i have had mainly good experiences with POF since ive joind the site i have lots of new friends and have been on a few really good dates. i give 2 thumbs to plenty of fish.
Thanks Jess, it’s good to hear that the site is working for some people.
My name is Mike and I own ezdate123. In my opinion Plenty of Fish is the best online dating site on the web. I support Markus and admire his approach. We have recently followed his lead and made ezdate123 totally free as well. I like the concept of free in todays economy and thanks to Google all of this is possible. It is a win-win for everyone… The best to Markus, his members and the online community… Mike
Hello Mike. It’s not only Google that makes it possible to run a free dating site; you can sell advertising space to others to make up the money as well, by any number of means.
PlentyOfFish proves that the free dating site model works, and works well. It generates revenue for the site owner, and is not subject to the usual problems of the large paid dating sites where most of the profiles listed have been posted by people who are not subscribers and will never be able to reply to you. I often think that the paid dating sites are selling a dream. They’re very good at it, but it’s still a dream, just the same.
I’d like to wish you the best of luck with your site. I corrected your URL for you in your comment submission.
They keep deleting my profile…I have no idea why…
GAME OVER!
I have to say I agree that someone reads our emails and has deleted my account for no reason. I have not harrassed anyone of any kind or created duplicate accounts. Today I recreated the very same account and it was deleted ASAP with no email of any sort. I’ve used this site for almost three + years with no wrong doing. My ex-girl friend and I have used POF and both of us have been deleted with no reason. I find this really concerning. I asked Markus and no-reply was never reponded to. I agree that POF has its faults but there should be some light into why an account was deleted. All my profile are real and time-date stamped.
I read somewhere recently that Markus removes profiles that he considers to be inactive. The number of comments people have added here suggests that he is being a bit too aggressive in his approach. Markus, if you read this page again, perhaps it’s worth considering back-pedalling on the aggressive removal of profiles. It’s up to you, of course; it’s your service.
The profile I submitted in order to review the service is still live. I’ve logged onto the service occasionally with it, so perhaps that’s why it’s still live. I’ve never received any mail through it, but perhaps my profile description isn’t attractive enough to tempt people. (Perhaps it helps if you send mail, and of course, being male puts you at a disadvantage when it comes to most online dating agencies.) Having said that, a similar profile on certain other dating agencies has produced a lot more activity.
On Cheeky Monkey Dating, I will probably remove the profiles of people who abuse the system (I’ve already had to deal with two spammers). I’d like people to enter a decent description. Right now, I’m letting almost anything through because I need people to use the service, but if it takes off then I will apply a minimum standard to the profile description requirement. It is nice to see some legitimate mail passing through the system, though.
i would like to say that this is a good site but when you get deleted for no reason it said that i uploaed nudity i was in bed sleeping and some of the reasons for being deleted are in qwestion ex. being rude haresment how would you know if some one is making a fasle statement about you i feel that im a victom of this i had done nothing wrong on this site and enjoyed it everymuch and would wish to have it back and i never abused the rules so please take this inconsideration thank you pete ammonn
I’ve seen people of liked and disliked POF vehemently. The stories about forum abuse does seem be cause for concern. I’ve created what I believe is a good site that can achieve that balance of harmony. It just launched recently, so I hope you can visit and help it grow. Thanks!
[Ed: Link removed. The link did not take you to a dating site.]
the reason penty of fish is free is because no one in the right mind would pay to use his site. most profiles are fake and most members lie about themselves just to make themselves look good. i give the site a f-
paid dating sites work because people more of a insentive to be truthful, only a fool will pay to join and make then create fake profile, you can tell in a very few contacts if their profile is fake, most of penty of fish are.
Plenty of fish has a lot of duds on their site and I had to kiss a few toad before meeing my prince. Thank you POF, I have finally met the man that I hope I can spend the rest of my life with. Our relationship has taken us both to a wonderful friendship as well as a love relationship. Hope everyone will continue until with this site. That wonderful person is out there and can be found on your site.
I was banned by Brawnydog for my humour. I used a play of words in response to one of the thread’s question: help me create a company name for my dog walking service; I suggested Jen’s Bitches & Pussy’s Services Inc. Now, I thought that was funny, but Brawnydog said it was inappropriate and banned me for 30 days. Apparently he got a complaint from the original poster who has children reading the threads! She thought those comments were inappropriate for young children reading posts on an online dating forum. Yes, I did respond back to Brawnydog pointing out, by pure coincidence, that he used those very words on his own profile. I told him he was a hypocrite and an asshole….so he bans me for life.
My surprise in all this is how little esteem the mods hold of their membership. In my business, every client counts and we have to use very
carefully selected words just to say “no”….but POF staff members treat us with
disdain – “get with the program or you’re GONE!” – I mean, is that tone neccessary? Even one MOD described my posts as very funny and he
made an effort to post his pleasure on another thread while I was
under a profile of Lazyboy. Yet, with other MODS, I was treated like
crap.
Regarding the ‘fake profiles’: YES!…there are multitudes of fake profiles.
Gorgeous people! But, you can, only occasion find many of the pics
have been lifted from the net. In my opinion, 99% of people do not
post and maybe 1% do…..it’s the posters that get treated the worst.
I’m asking…..do we take too much of the resources? Is it this reason
why the average life span of a poster is akin to a fruit fly?
This is nothing more than a rumour that moderators and the admin read email, and was started by those who cause no end of trouble on the forums. Disruptive members are removed after 3 warnings.
The moderators have zero access to profile accounts. I’ve also seen another rumour going around on some of the copy-cat sites that some member was stalked by another on POF and that member’s personal information was retrieved and sold by a POF Moderator. This is BUNK. This is absolutely not true, moderators do not have access to this information. The lies are spread by the plethora of troublemakers the mods have to deal with.
The site’s forums are for everyone, yet there are so many who use these forums to spew,and then once they are silenced, they accuse the moderators of being “heavy-handed”. They do not see the moderator inboxes of complaints against the person(s) whose posting history is reviewed and if a pattern is established (a pattern of rankled, disruptive, trolling, flame-baiting and/or outright offense posts aimed in general or at specific members) their posting priviledges are removed. It is precisely these people who then go around slandering and libelling the moderators who essentially put a stop to them.
The moderators have long lists of rules that they must follow when suspending someone or banning someone from the forums. They reserve the right to restrict a member’s access to the forums if they are causing a disruption, but ALL account deletions go through the Admin and not the moderators. Moderators can make recommendations based on the information they do see (such as post history, if this member has multiple accounts, etc) Not following these rules can pull them up on the carpet.
Moderators are not paid. They are charged with keeping the forums a hospitable place; something that would be impossible if those on the web who are complaining about being banned were still allowed to participate. Moderators receive countless emails thanking them for intercepting a flame-war in progress, and moderators reveal nothing to anyone but other volunteers and the Administrator regarding the account status and actions taken on any accounts.
In addition to moderation, they must scan profiles for copyright infringement, unappropriate or offensive images, report them, issue warnings to the member and follow up. Moderators never have the option to delete the profile without review by the Administrator, and they have never had the option to make such a call on their own nor do they have access to emails but does have measures in place that does NOT include someone accessing emails that help aid the site in reducing the number of spam/scam emails.
Those who complain about being banned have been warned previously or have caused a disruption that was severe enough to warrant immediate banning. It is difficult moderating any site, let alone one the size of POF. These accusations are sour grapes from those who could not follow the rules. Some of these accusations are outright lies. I have been a member of POF for 3 years and am on there solely for the forums since meeting my fiancé on the site in 2004. Over this time I have come to know some of the moderators, including some that are no longer moderators, and I have seen a pattern emerge with the wave of bad apples that come and go. They are, in my opinion, given a chance to participate in the forums but they to their own damage to themselves by their conduct. They are banned from the site, they recreate new profiles only to be caught and then as a result ALL of their profiles are deleted from the site, then they gripe and complain over the internet about “unfair” treatment.
They did it to themselves.
Personally I believe that the forum should be treated separately than the main dating site. If a member causes trouble in the forum, that is a reason for limiting their access to the forum. It is not a reason for limiting their access to the main site, in my opinion. If private mails are going out to other members that are of an unsuitable nature, that’s another story, of course, but removing a profile from an individual because of their forum posts seems wrong to me.
There seem to be quite a few people that are aggrieved by the policy of the site, if the comments written here are true.
The forums on pof are nothing but full of dictatorship. If you stay there for a couple of months and notice very carefully, you will realize that it’s the same bunch of older folks participating day in and day out, breaking rules and chatting and yet not getting banned at all. These people also happen to have testimonials on their profiles by one of the mods. Oh and about the brawnydog thingie, yes, I have a huge problem with him too. He bans people he does not like without a single reason. The admin deleted my friend . And I have no clue how to find him. We were just starting to talk, and did not even have each other’s personal email address. If the admin itself becomes a stumbling block in people’s budding relationships, how can you expect to find anyone from this site? Honestly, I’m really very sad he deleted this guy I liked because a bunch of old people hated his brutal honesty. I wish that site was fair but it is not and I don’t think it will ever be. Atleast not untill markus comes back to the earth.
Markus should really take a close look at the behaviour of the moderators. Has anyone but me noticed how those mod’s girlfriends break rules and still never even get a warning? That site is so full of corruption. It’s not going to last long. I personally like okcupid more because it caters to the younger folks and does not have stupid, corrupted people as moderators. The forums on POF would be great fun if the moderators were fair. I think only 3 moderators out of them all are. That too not always. But, atleast these 3 reply to the emails you send if you are having problems. The others don’t even care….esp Brawnydog….he just deletes emails without reading and so does that Trappedon bayst and Tickettoride. I think Pandy and Late are fair moderators. They did ban me but it was for valid reasons. But the others are very unfair! They should be removed from the mod’s chairs.
Wow. First of all I just want to say thanks to the owners of flirt-coach.net for having this website. When I typed in “plentyoffish.com (POF)” and the word “complaints” into a search engine to find a place to post my complaints about plentyoffish which was not on their website (since they censor complaints), this was one of the first sites to come up. I also want to say thanks to the folks who started POF because overall, my opinion of them is very good as a whole. Currently, my profile at POF is still up as “onyxblue.” I say that because if you place my username in the POF forum search engine you will see that few people have spoke about POF with as many compliments as I have, many, many times. However, without question the primary problem on POF is like many people have said, the heavy-handed censorship of posts and deleting of threads. It is sad. I also must agree with what several users said about divorced women with children who disagree with you, and then follow you around on other forum threads instigating. Yes, that is very true. If you look at the thread titled “Plentyoffish, Now with Flowers” you will actually see one repeatedly cursing at me (simply because she disagreed with me), and she later followed me around to other threads insulting me, despite the fact that I stated I would no longer reply to her. But there is another topic here which should be mentioned that has not been brought up n regards to POF being a free site only sponsored by ads. And that is the fact that if you request that POF make a new feature like “free virtual flowers” or “free virtual winks” the admin and moderators will lock, delete, censor and/or move your thread to a forum where no one visits. Don’t believe it? Type in “virtual flowers” in the forum search engine and see how many threads you find out of the millions of threads and posts. One (if they haven’t deleted that yet). And they locked that one when many people began to agree that they wanted them. There were others but moderators delete them when many people start requesting that feature. Many people have repeatedly requested free virttual flowers and free virtual winks but POF continues not to allow it. Why do they do that? Very simple. Within the last month they revealed their new “creditcard, pay-per-priviledge flowers” (also known as ‘Real Flowers’) feature. Even though their motto is “put away your credit card” in order to use that feature, you need to take out your credit card. They deny people who are not so financially priviledged the ability to send free virtual flowers, so they can promote their newest pay-per-use feature. Thats sad. On 10/4 Marcus, the admin is quoted as saying” “Virtual gifts etc are pointless. Its a gimmick paid sites use to try and get people to pay so they can message someone. If I allowed that stuff a lot of women would get spammed with useless messages. It would probably outnumber real mail 2 to 1.” Did I ever get a response to that? Yes, but not directly. Instead the next time I logged into the forum I discovered that I was banned until 7/4/2009! Unbelievable! Above, M. Barton said people get three warnings but that is not true. Nat at all. However, one of the moderators told me my ban might be lifted, so we’ll have to wait and see. I still have access to my profile, so I guess it is good that being banned from the forums still lets you have access to your profile. You know what I think would be a good idea? To have a separate POF place where all the POF users could go to talk that is completely “uncensored” by moderators. just so that we can suggest new POF features (r at least try to find a way that users and heavy-handed moderators can co-exist harmoniously) without having our threads, deleted, locked, censored or banned by Marcus or POF moderators. Lots of chatwebsites have this, and many more forums have this. Many indymedia websites (such as Portland, Oregon) have a place where censored topics are places so that people can still discuss those topics, especially when they criticise indymedia. Anyway, thanks flirt-coach and thanks to POF for existing because I still haven’t found a better dating site than POF yet.
I also think it is important to share with you the response I gave to Markus, the admin, regarding the free virtual flowers. Especially because above Markus said “Also lets put some perspective on this, several hundred thousand people access/use the forum a month of those less then ~15 get banned a month.” I don’t think thats true. Am I to believe that I am one of only 15 who got a 3 -year ban from the POF forums ….one of 15 banned during the month of October 2006… for simply talking about virtual flowers? A 3 year ban? I never cursed at anyone, never eveen used all capital letters, never yelled, and even frequently complimented POF. On 10/4 Markus, the POF admin, is quoted as saying” “Virtual gifts etc are pointless. Its a gimmick paid sites use to try and get people to pay so they can message someone. If I allowed that stuff a lot of women would get spammed with useless messages. It would probably outnumber real mail 2 to 1.” I have also heard POF moderators say the same thing but I have told them the same thing. Here is an excerpt of my response: “Like many, many of the long time POF women and men have said on this thread and many other forums and other threads, virtual gifts are not pointless. I agree with you that many sites have used it as a gimmick, but POF could be one of the many sites that do not use it as a gimmick. As you well know many dating sites uses ‘IM’ messages and ‘email within the dating site’ as gimmicks as well (because you can only use those features usually if you pay a lot of money). However POF is now one of the many sites that do not use IM and emails as a gimmick so you could do the same with virtual flowers or at least virtual winks (but I think virtual flowers are better recived because you can choose from a variety of beautiful flower pictures and even initialize them sometimes so people print them out). I have to disagree with your second sentence completely though. Women would not get spammed if you allowed it. Do you know why? Because if you allowed, the way in which you allowed it should be created as follows: You could initially, automatically have it in off-mode to start off with (default settings) so that people who think it is gimmick (or who think they will get spammed) never, ever have to use it and never have to recieve virtual winks or virtual flowers unless they specifically know how to go through ‘the hassle’ to turn it on. And even after they turn it on, theycould place ‘restrictions on who can send them virtual winks’ much like the restrictions on mail in POF (which is a great feature by the way). This is very much like the IM message service. I recommended a friend of mine to sign up for POF and she started getting so many IM messages from so many guys that it was like pop-up spam. But then I told her to simply turn off her IM feature and she no longer recieves IM messages. So as you can see, it would be very, very easy to apply this same exact feature to virtual winks and free virtual flowers. Thanks for allowing this conversation to continue.” Even though I said thanks for allowing this conversation to continue, later the exact same day, Marcus replied and said “As for posts about virtual flowers, enough This is the thread for REAL flowers.” This is the kind of censorship you will see all over POF. You can’t even talk about virtual flowers without having someone want to censor you. To be honest, I want to end this comment by saying…please… someone make an alternative to POF, which has many of the same wonderful free-of-charge features as POF but that has no heavy-handed censorship of forums. A place where people might be able to discuss something so controversial and taboo as…. free virtual flowers… a place where people can disagree out loud with people without having their threads deleted, censored, moved or locked. If you know of any like that please email me. My email address is onyxwildfire@gmail.com. Thanks everyone.
Thanks for a very detailed and informative review. I can see A lot of work went into it.
I completely agree with you onyxblue. What pains me is the fact that the moderators are a bunch of puppets who run around under the control of a few 40+ women on pof. They deleted one of the most articulate, honest and intelligent person on pof. Anyone remember mrgordongecko? Yes, they complained against him and had him removed? Did the admin investigate anything? No, not at all. He just listened to these bunch of whiny women and deleted his profile. I’m so sad about this that I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. Oh and it’s a lie that only 15 people get banned. That’s utter, complete lie. I know of atleast 30 to 40 people who get banned everyday for 3 years. Also, the 3 warning issue is wrong. They never warned me the first time they banned. The brawnydog guy banned me. Do you know why he banned me? Because I said, “quit being whiny and move on” to one of his friend’s forum thread. This woman has a testimonial on his page and vice versa. Obviously they were friends, he became unfair, took his side and banned for 3 years. No warning, no nothing. Just complete 3 year ban. To be honest, I think that man is the black spot on pof. I know many people on there who hate him and don’t approve of his rules. He is a power hungry joker. The admin needs to seriously take a close look at his attitude and behaviour.
angry women…divorced for a reason…sounds like vancouver.
David wrote:
“Personally I believe that the forum should be treated separately than the main dating site. If a member causes trouble in the forum, that is a reason for limiting their access to the forum. It is not a reason for limiting their access to the main site, in my opinion. If private mails are going out to other members that are of an unsuitable nature, that’s another story, of course, but removing a profile from an individual because of their forum posts seems wrong to me.
There seem to be quite a few people that are aggrieved by the policy of the site, if the comments written here are true. ”
When a member cannot follow forum rules, they are restricted from posting in the forum and their profile is not deleted unless the site picks up on multiple accounts, recreated accounts to circumvent a suspension from the forums, or complaints are sent via email to the administrator about spam emails coming from the suspended member’s profile.
People are not deleted solely for being unable to behave themselves. Most, if not all of the griping here is coming from adults who cannot behave themselves on a forum and who simultaneously have a problem with the concept of they being guests in Markus’ house, using a free site, given rules to read (but neglect to follow) and flame other members. I’ve seen this happen over and over and over. Sorry, but POF has seen its share of troublemakers and these same troublemakers troll the net defaming the moderators and Markus because they rightfully were turfed for their bad attitude.
Raksha said:
“Markus should really take a close look at the behaviour of the moderators. Has anyone but me noticed how those mod’s girlfriends break rules and still never even get a warning? That site is so full of corruption. It’s not going to last long. I personally like okcupid more because it caters to the younger folks and does not have stupid, corrupted people as moderators. The forums on POF would be great fun if the moderators were fair. I think only 3 moderators out of them all are. That too not always. But, atleast these 3 reply to the emails you send if you are having problems. The others don’t even care….esp Brawnydog….he just deletes emails without reading and so does that Trappedon bayst and Tickettoride. I think Pandy and Late are fair moderators. They did ban me but it was for valid reasons. But the others are very unfair! They should be removed from the mod’s chairs. ”
If you garnered the attention of 2 or more moderators for your behavior on a site that has in excess of 10,000 posts daily, then it is you, Raksha, who was the problem.
Onyx wrote:
“I also must agree with what several users said about divorced women with children who disagree with you, and then follow you around on other forum threads instigating. Yes, that is very true. If you look at the thread titled “Plentyoffish, Now with Flowers” you will actually see one repeatedly cursing at me (simply because she disagreed with me), and she later followed me around to other threads insulting me, despite the fact that I stated I would no longer reply to her. ”
As it is stated over and over in the forums, email a moderator or list the violation in the help forum “Report a Violation” thread and these people will be taken care of. There is a moderator that nobody ever speaks of that I go to for help and she has always been fair – but she’s quiet and does a lot of stuff behind the scenes. It’s Babylonia, and I’ve never heard one bad thing about her and I’ve gone to her and she’s been impartial – even giving me crap for responding to a flamebait. If you have issues with the forum and you feel legitimately flamed, go to the report thread or contact Babylonia or Pandy and they will help you. Trust me I have been flamed so many times and sometimes I have flamed back in anger (before I had the wherewithall to sit on my fingers). I’ve received warnings and one 1 day ban last year for getting into it with a single mum over the same stuff you talked about, but I think I’ve stayed out of trouble because I conduct myself on the forums much the same way I would conduct myself in real life. So many people forget to do that. There is something that happens to people once they get behind their screen that turns them into monsters and so much of what I see on the web about the “mods” is plain B.S. and sour grapes. Sorry, but as a long time member of the forums, I’ve seen a lot to know that this back talk about the mods and admin is NOT as one sided as these naysayers would want everyone to believe.
Raksha,
You are a liar. You do not know 30-40 people who get banned daily for 3+ years, and Brawnydog did not ban you because you held a dissenting opinion from a friend of his. It does not work that way and you know it. It did not happen that way either and you know that, too.
It’s just amazing how the stories become exaggerated in order to build a case for oneself.
Regarding Markus’ comments on why profiles are deleted, and why users are banned. Check out my blogs on MySpace. It tells you why I was banned from the forums for 14 years, and when I questioned that, my profile was banned. Presumably for the same reason.
On top of that, my roommate and friend since Junior High is also banned from the forums, and she’s never posted a thing. Why? Apparently one of Markus’ wonderful mods feels that she isn’t a person in her own right, but since our profiles are similar, we must be the same person. Who cares about the truth?
Arbitrary, over-zealous, unprofessional. Three words to describe the PoF moderators. It’s all in my blogs. In case my site doesn’t show up on the reply, it’s http://www.myspace.com/tia67
Go give the PoF related blogs a read.
The site is a joke, the admin and moderators are so unprofessional as to go to other message boards and take comments made there and use them as reasons to ban users on PoF. Hell, being on the message boards that I created is enough reason to delete some proiles, apparently. One person on another message board had her profile deleted. She had never broken a rule on PoF, and had never said anything about the site on the other board, but the day after brawnydog was banned from that message board, her profile disappeared.
In reference to another person commenting that they don’t read personal email messages on that site, they must. There was no other way that “brawnydog” could hae known about the other message board, it wasn’t posted anywhere, and word was passed among friends through private emails on that website. There’s no other possibility.
Competition, also completely free, is in the beta stage now, and will grow quickly, I’m sure. We’ll see how PoF fares once users know that there’s another place to go for the same purposes, and more, where they are treated like adults.
M.Barton: So says, miss Brawnydog’s puppet. I think I have a fair idea who you are. But, I’m 100% sure you are one of those 40+ forum gropie on there. Or you are Brawnydog himself. The only thing I agree with you is the fact that Pandy and Babylonia are fair. Everything you said besides that is full of crappola. You don’t know a thing. I’m sure you sugarcoat your responses so much and kiss the moderator’s asses so much that you never ever get banned. Look in the mirror before talking about justice and injustice. That site is unfair and it will remain so until the bullheaded admin comes back to the earth.
Thanks for the insightful response ,Tia. I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks the brawnydog man is a jerk. He is very unfair and has let the power go to his head. I doubt anyone likes him. And those that do are his puppets ofcourse.
I want to thank everyone who spoke up about the injust manner in which POF treats people. By speaking up you enable more people to avoid the poor treatment which we recieved, you encourage more computer programmers to make an alternative to plentyoffish faster and you encourage more victims of POF to speak up so that the truth can get louder and louder which is how justice also become inevitable.
Thank you Raksha and thank you Tia and everyone else. M. Barton replied to my former post by saying: “As it is stated over and over in the forums, email a moderator or list the violation in the help forum “Report a Violation” thread and these people will be taken care of.”
Thats not possible because as we have tried to tell you and everyone else, if a moderator gets one complaint (especially from bitter divorced women who roam the POF forums) they (ticketoride) will ban you from the forums for 3 years without warning, and without ever answering your emails to them. What is really ironic is that when you click on “Help” on the POF sites this is what it states word-for-word: “No questions requarding site functionality, reasons for deletions etc will be answered. Read the FAQ or ask your question in the forums.”
If you get banned from the forum, how are you to ask your question in the forum? Answer: you don’t, they don’t care about you,. they only care about making money from ads and from their new credit-card flower feature.
M. Barton states “… If you have issues with the forum and you feel legitimately flamed, go to the report thread or contact Babylonia or Pandy and they will help you. Trust me I have been flamed so many times and sometimes I have flamed back in anger (before I had the wherewithall to sit on my fingers). I’ve received warnings and one 1 day ban last year for getting into it with a single mum over the same stuff you talked about, but I think I’ve stayed out of trouble because I conduct myself on the forums much the same way I would conduct myself in real life. So many people forget to do that. There is something that happens to people once they get behind their screen that turns them into monsters and so much of what I see on the web about the “mods” is plain B.S. and sour grapes. Sorry, but as a long time member of the forums, I’ve seen a lot to know that this back talk about the mods and admin is NOT as one sided as these naysayers would want everyone to believe.” What i said is not one-sided. I quoted Markus’s response to me word-for-word, remember? That makes it two-sided. So please tell the truth. You are also forgetting that there is a very easy way to prove what I am saying: Step #1. Go to the POF website. Step #2. Click on “Search” at the top of the screen. Step #3. Move the search scroll bar from “thread title” to “user name.” Step #4. Type in “onyxblue.” Step #5. You will see not one, not two, but over 40 different forums in which I posted comments about different subjects and you will see that I was always polite, never cursed, never called anyone names, never even used capital letters and I was still banned. I have heard many people mention the heavy-handed nature of moderator ‘tickettoride’ and they are absolutely correct. My profile is up but he is the one who banned me from the forum for 3 years. Some how you, M. Barton, who have spoken to people even here on flirt-coach in an extremely rude manner (using everything from abbreviated profanity to outright calling people a ‘liar’), received a 1-day ban (from a humane moderator), but ‘tickettoride’ gave us 3-year bans, and he didn’t even bother to give me a first warning (which is common from what I hear).
M.Barton calls people a liar who speak up about POF injustice yet M. Barton says “Trust me…I’ve received warnings and one 1 day ban last year for getting into it with a single mum over the same stuff you talked about.” You want people to believe that a divorced mom attacked you like she did me, when you spoke about the “same stuff” I did, which was creating an alternative to the new pay-per-use flowers on POF. Now, how could that be the truth, when you were attacked “last year” (as you said) but POF just created the pay-per-use, credit-card-needed flowers feature in October 2006? And yet everyone should believe everything else that you’re saying?
M.Barton would like people to believe that the massive number of people who are injustly kicked from the Plentyoffish site are isolated incidents but actually it gets worse everyday. Amazon.com has a product review site of plentyoffish and you will see most of the reviews about POF are extremely bad and extremely detailed. Its important to realize that only people who have made a purchase with their Amazon username can post reviews. See those reviews here: http://www.amazon.com/Plenty-Fish-Free-online-dating/dp/B0000A00RG
So when Markus, M. Barton and others tell people that only a few people are complaining, and when M. Barton states that only a few people are complaining, it is not the truth. I agree with Tia that Competition websites are being tested and I hope they prosper quickly. There is even a brand new not-for-profit opensource social networking system (an alternative to myspace) called ‘Mugshot’ which I hope more computer programmers will customize so that sites like plentyoffish cannot continue to treat people like sub-humans just because Markus is not using even a fraction of his $10,000 a day in google ad profit to employe some humane moderators to make sure people are treated in a fairly human manner. Again, I would like to thank flirt-coach for giving us the chance to speak out and I would like to encourage computer programmer to make an alternative to plentyoffish. I would rather be networking with other people instead of having to let people know which social dating site to avoid at all costs, even if it is mostly free (except for the creditcard flowers feature). Thank you.
Our alternative is up and running in beta form. When it’s completed, and ready to go live for the public, I’ll post it here if that’s permitted. If not, it will be on my MySpace website in one of my blogs, at that time.
Plenty of Fish.. They’re not the only game in town anymore who are 100% free. Let’s see how long they last when other sites have administrators and moderators who are human, and have compassion and common sense, and who’s policy is to treat others fairly.
Thanks for your input, Tia. Though, I went to your myspace page and tried to read the blogs, and it said I have to be a member of myspace to read it. As much as I want to read what you have to say, I would never sign-up with myspace and there are a lot of other activists and people who feel the same, so I would like to recommend that you get another blog (like livejounal) that doesn’t require people to subscribe to it, in order to read your blog (not only would it help people read what you have to say, but it would also show up in search engines easier to get the word out).
No offense to you, but I think its worth noting on this PoF review, that I find myspace at least 100 times worse than Plentyoffish. At least plentyoffish allows non-subscribers to read (but not reply) in their forums, and they aren’t owned by Fox news, the world’s most extremist-right wing, war-promoting news media multi-national corporation (see the documentary ‘outfoxed’ to hear it from Fox news employees themselves), and they don’t have big flashing ads recruiting people for the military service in Iraq like myspace. As stated above, I still think Plentyoffish is the best dating site I’ve ever seen (especially because it was once 100% free-of-charge until Markus began his creditcard, pay-per-priviledge, more-money-to-Markus flowers feature in Oct 2006) but I think basically Markus has done some beautiful and incredible work by creating that site and it is truly and inspiration to others. Though, I think he needs to start using all the money he is making to actually pay some moderators (the word ‘volunteer’ on a website making that much money is a polite way to say ’sweatshop worker’..which is why AOL ‘forum volunteers’ sued AOL in a class-action lawsuit for a union see http://www.internetnews.com/xSP/article.php/127431 ) so that PoF volunteers can take the time to treat people humanely instead of just having volunteer moderator like tickettoride who don’t care who they are deleting.
Its also worth noting that the “the US Department of Labor [investigated] America Online Inc for its use of unpaid labor” so I wonder when they’re going to investigate Markus and the Pof admin? See article here: http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CGN/is_3671/ai_54750523
Also Tia, since your site is in the Beta mode, I sure hope it has all the wonderful features like Plentyoffish, you know like instant messaging, turning words of interest into links which link people (livejournal.com also has that and it is built on an opensource system so maybe you could get it from there), mail restrictions so only people you want can contact you, fans, favorites, and letting people read profiles and forums without being logged in or a subscriber.
Most sites don’t do that which is amajor reason why I can’t stand most sites. Also free dating sites don’t have a ’search’ word feature for their forums which they definiteley should have. I notice PoF has not deleted my profile yet, so I think PoF definitely has potential, but mostly their forums management needs improvement. Thanks to flirt-coach for making these conversations possible (because PoF deleted all crictisms of their site, which is all rather counter-productive..as it only makes their critics go elsewhere to discuss these issues.) Ever notice how all the truly altruistic, opensource communities (like Mambo, Drupal, Red Hat Mugshot, Livejournal., etc.,) are able to openly discuss their flaws and then improve them, but sites like PoF (where Markus and maybe one or two others are making all the money) censor and delete all critics thus causing people to have submit reviews elsewhere? Its worth noting. Thanks everyone for listening.
love for all,
-onyx blue
We don’t have instant messaging, exactly. We have a chat feature, where you can create a private room as well, so there will be rooms with multiple users in them, and people can also go to private rooms to talk, instead of having to add people to their MSN to get to know them. The IM on PoF was horrible. I had it turned off, couldn’t stand it.
We have a “buddy list” for adding your friends, a “hot list” for adding your interests, a “banned list” for blocking contact from specific users. There are some “Forums” that are only for registered users, as well as there being some “more general” forums that you don’t have to register to use. We will be looking into the “interest” link, or at least a “keyword” search for profiles.
As far as MySpace goes, I’m completely non-political, so I’m not overly concerned who owns it. Don’t care if they’re left leaning or right leaning. My friends have spaces on there, and the site suits my needs, so I’m good wth it. As far as the blog goes, I’ll look into creating one somewhere else so that more people can read the things I’ve posted about PoF.
PoF would have potential if it were run by people who were willing to discuss issues with their “clients” instead of simply deleting those who ask questions. As it stands now, it’s fine if all you want to do is post a profile and shop the catalogue. Just don’t try to get to know anyone on the forums. It won’t happen, because you’ll be banned for “chatting”.
I’ll post the URL here for the new blog when I create it.
Raksha says:
“M.Barton: So says, miss Brawnydog’s puppet. I think I have a fair idea who you are. But, I’m 100% sure you are one of those 40+ forum gropie on there. Or you are Brawnydog himself. The only thing I agree with you is the fact that Pandy and Babylonia are fair. Everything you said besides that is full of crappola. You don’t know a thing. I’m sure you sugarcoat your responses so much and kiss the moderator’s asses so much that you never ever get banned. Look in the mirror before talking about justice and injustice. That site is unfair and it will remain so until the bullheaded admin comes back to the earth. ”
Yeah, and you are trying to convince the rest of the ‘net world that it was YOU who was unfairly treated? LOL. You are a liar. You know it and I know it. You have no idea WHO I am, however entertaining your accusations are.
It’s just too funny that only those who have a record of causing problems on the site get up in arms when they are banned from participating.
Thanks for showing your true colours, Raksha. The forums are much better without you.
Good luck, Tia. You’ll need it!
Onyx,
Your story IS one sided, and it isn’t the truth. Raksha is an outright liar claiming that s/he knows of multiple people being banned daily. Utter B.S. You people think you can twist your experiences and defame people without consequence when you forget there are those of us who witness the bad behavior going on within the forums. We see people get booted for good reason, not ‘any’ reason.
This whole review is nothing but a bunch of sour grapes and the attitudes that got some of you booted from POF clearly show in here as well.
Good riddance!
“M.Barton calls people a liar who speak up about POF injustice yet M. Barton says “Trust me…I’ve received warnings and one 1 day ban last year for getting into it with a single mum over the same stuff you talked about.” You want people to believe that a divorced mom attacked you like she did me, when you spoke about the “same stuff” I did, which was creating an alternative to the new pay-per-use flowers on POF. Now, how could that be the truth, when you were attacked “last year” (as you said) but POF just created the pay-per-use, credit-card-needed flowers feature in October 2006? And yet everyone should believe everything else that you’re saying? ”
Wow, nice attempt at twisting words there, Onyx! The “same stuff” referred to arguments with a single mum on “single parent status”, not about your silly issue with the virtual flowers. As for you believing me, and you can trust me on this, I couldn’t care less. I know you (and Raksha especially with his/her claim on the 30/40 people daily being banned) are full of it.
Is that your issue? Virtual Flowers? And the rest of “us” on the WWW are supposed to believe you were the one unfairly treated at POF, meanwhile the vast majority of people have had zero problems?
Could it be that you didn’t behave yourself and are a bit miffed at being shown the door?
There are simple rules to follow. Every single action taken against you and your account are documented and stored. Every.single.action. This includes moderator correspondence and moderator actions. They must detail the action, why, and provide backup (i.e., copied posts, emails, complaints from other members with their proof, etc). They’d bury you in their records.
Tia,
Aren’t you the same ~Tia~ who doesn’t get mad, but “Get’s Even”? Aren’t you the same member of a certain board who, along with other members, discussed placing “rogue thread titles” , even “dozens or more” once a certain member (who shall remain nameless but his initials were ~boB~) was “reinstated” from a forum ban? Wasn’t this the same group who snickered over a NO HOLDS BARRED onslaught to spam the forums, spam inboxes, and wreak havoc because you were disgruntled, and with no regard to your fellow members? I was even spammed to join your so-called site, and this is how I know you aren’t being entirely forthcoming here.
Shall I copy and paste your own posts and the posts I quoted above to prove what I’m stating? Quotes such as “14 people so far in the other place. Everyone is welcome there. There are a few who have the information, get in touch with one of them and pass the information to your friends as well.” – ~Tia~
Hmmm….spam much?
Your “get even”, and your co-hort’s “NO HOLDS BARRED” barrage got you deleted – just as any website would do (and likely ban your collective IPs as well). It had nothing to do with you having a message board and everything to do with you and others taking your threats and violating the site’s TOS.
Yet you wonder why POF has the rules it does? Do you honestly think POF hasn’t seen this before? It’s because of people who do this that these rules were implemented. How can you possibly cry injustice when you and others who were simultaneously banned from POF for disrupting the forums, all in an attempt to antagonize the moderators and the admin to the point of completely removing you from the site, are on record for participating in? You were not unfairly treated. You were treated and dealt with exactly how the TOS outlined and exactly how others before you were dealt with for violating the site’s rules.
From someone who knows and can prove you’re only telling a grain of truth sandwiched in between embellishments, I cannot believe your audacity. If you are going to provide reviews, please do so with integrity. You openly spammed the forums yourself, ~Tia~, first by spamming inboxes, then openly spamming the forums. Both are violations to the TOS that you agreed to when you joined this free site. Spamming is not allowed, period, so what makes you and the other Nova Scotia Justin Case’s, Polly G’s and ~Tia’s~ exempt?
There were those of us who were sick and tired of the Nova Scotia forums being overrun and WE went to the moderators to fix it. There is more to this story that you very conveniently, and to your benefit only, have left out.
Shut up, Bucs girl or whichever puppet you are. You just called me a liar but do you know that you are lying through your teeth in all of your posts?! Every single action is stored and recorded, you say?! Give me the damned proof of that. Actually give all the people proof of that. We may not be able to complain on that nasty site, but it’s democracy on the rest of the internet world and you’re damn right we’ll speak against it. Every document stored , my foot! The admin reads/ deletes emails concerning forums and accounts. The mods do not reply with the exception of few and when you voice your concern, you get banned. I am so laughing at your “every info is stored” bit. Because that is the most outrageous lie if there was ever one. Pick a banned username from the past and see if you can dig up the info and the history. You can’t because it simply does not exist anymore. Even the regulars on those forums have opened up their new internet where they get to post like adults without getting banned. Most people are sick of it and slowly leaving. This new site formed by regulars already has over 300 members in 2 months. Goodluck to you plentyoffish, on keeping your site going on. I doubt it’ll stay. It’s going to collapse soon. You can’t be a dictator and rule for much longer in today’s world.
Raksha was a toxic fish who was culled from the gene pool.
Thanks, POF!
“Shut up, Bucs girl or whichever puppet you are. You just called me a liar but do you know that you are lying through your teeth in all of your posts?!”
Very mature reponse on a review board. I must say your pithy rebuttal removes all doubt in the face of another’s mention of fact. If a dating site is being proactive in removing people with your attitude from its site, then perhaps that is the dating site serious people ought to patron.
Sounds to me like they are doing online singles a service. Sign me up.
How else do you expect a 19 year old to respond you dumbass? Immaturity is my right, atleast I’m admitting to it. It’s not your right. You’re probably a 40 something old person just like the ones that smelly site is full of . Honestly, if you are under 30 and have a mind of your own, don’t even think of joining that site, and even if you do, never venture into the forums. The older catty women will eat you up since they don’t like anyone young and beautiful taking their places. That place is a soap opera. Don’t believe me? Join it and see for yourself! That place is rampant with older, whiny, single mothers. And if not them, then all you can find there is overweight people who can’t type a damn worth of a sentence. But, they stay there, why? Because they kiss the mod’s asses. Especially after the way I’ve been harassed and banned from that site, you should be thankful I’m not opening up all the damned closets. Sign up on that site all you like, but chances are you’re already there and you’re one of the mods obviously. So who cares about your review.
I actually agree with Tia, Onyx and Raksha. The moderators are a bunch of power hungry people. I’m sorry what happened to you Onyx and Raksha. That happens to most people who raise their voice. I too had problems with the moderator known as Brawnydog, BTW. I think he is known for harassing younger women, especially those under 25.
JustWOW: You contradicted yourself in your consecutive posts. You said “Raksha is a toxic fish” in the former post and in the latter, you said. ” POF is doing a great job. Sign me up”……….Wow is anyone ever lying? LoL. You’re one of the moderators, are you not? How would you know Raksha or anyone if you have not even signed up on that site? Could you please quit lying. We’re having a serious review here.
It is interesting that a request was made to ask one person to quit lying, meanwhile I’ve detailed a post directly contradicting another reviewer’s account of what happened to her, complete with quotes she herself typed out, and it is completely ignored.
Any attempt at a serious review has already been quashed. In my opinion, a viewer of this review will see the type of forum chaos other members created on the local forums. The moderators listened and I feel that Plenty of Fish has been successful in addressing other members’ concerns. Many of us were dissuaded from participating in some of the forums for precicely this type of activity displayed by certain members, interspersed throughout the various global and local forums. It was, in all honesty, becoming an unfriendly place for those of us who would venture in to threads to only find ourselves reading pages upon pages of posts riddled with snide innuendos, veiled attacks, and iddle chat that should have been taken to email at others . It felt like entering a virtual highschool clique.
If a serious review was really the focus of those posting here, the flame baits would have been ignored. Instead, we have a myopic view of those who would much rather spew insults for dissenting opinions. You’ve also contradicted yourself in that vein, Sillyrose. Furthermore, I don’t see anything but an attack in the post by JustWow, so I’m not sure what it would be that he/she is lying about. Why even bother? Seeing that Raksha has also donned his/her share of attacks on here (loved the Nazi comment, however hyperbolic), is it any wonder that it would get to this stage?
Anyhow Sillyrose, I do not agree with you, and I don’t agree with you because I was witness to the event I spoke of in my earlier posts. I’ve nothing against you, Raksha, JustWow or anyone else who has spoken their opinion. I am expressing my own, and with clear recollection of what I saw transpire.
If anyone needs to stop lying, it is the poster who claimed she was banned for having an alternate site and not because she and others partook in the systematic spamming of the forums and the NS crowd.
Finally, I hardly believe any moderator of that site would bother to venture into this ‘discussion’. I don’t see where they would have the need to defend their protocol when it is sanctioned by the owner of the site. Their concerns are the site itself and I imagine with all of the action there that they are responsible for moderating, they probably are too busy to address the comments of those they have already removed from the site.
I have enjoyed my membership at Plenty of Fish and I am grateful that the service was free and that it put me in touch with some of the most interesting people I have met (outside of work). So I’ll go on record to say that while it has its share of hiccups and a lot of drama does seem to go down, I find much of the claims unfounded considering my experience, and have the site to thank for some of the neatest people I can now call friends.
Non-sense, pure Non-sense.
The lies do not get any thicker than this, as with just about everything that is posted here.
I have seen the inception of this Forum, when it was till run like a Chatsite, and People were complaining about being freely ganged up on by organized Trolls, and requested we institute Rules.
Furthermore, only the ‘Admin’ or Site Filters delete account, and what most complainers will not mention here in their Efforts to slam the Site, is that they flagrantly broke the Rules of the Site in each and every Instance.
You found out? How?
More Lies … endless Fabrications.
Moderators do not have ‘Delete Profile’ Functions.
You would have to be able to see through my Eyes to know what complete Garbage is posted here.
I only want one profile on POF but after deleteing my profile thinking I had met Prince Charming I can not add another. The program deletes each new one that i add. Its very discouraging as ‘he (prince charming) is still on there. I guess he knoew how to hide his profile. He apparently makes the women deletes theirs and its his revenge.
I tried to send at least 10 emaisl to customercare at POF and no one does ‘care’.
I am a decent woman – mid age with a disabled child at home (thus no time to go out and look for a realationship). I was so happy on POF but now cant get back on. Why do you punish those who ‘delete’. Was that not the ‘honest, respectful’ thing to do if you were going to date exclusively?
Kat,
Try recreating a profile and immediately going to the help forum and posting there on this issue. Also, contact the forum moderator profile via email to inform the moderators of this problem and give them the url to your post to let them know you also posted in the help forum.
The only reason one would be consistently deleted is if the system filter caught multiple profiles or if you were spamming through emails or on the forum itself.
I am the POF moderator, Pandy, who has been referenced in posts above.
I’m not going to do a line-by-line rebuttal of all the charges leveled against POF on this thread, but I will say that they are serious misconceptions in some cases, outright lies in others.
We ARE volunteers, we do keep records of every suspension, and each suspension has a direct correlation to TOS or the forum rules.
The Forum_Moderator account on POF is a collective inbox for all moderators and it is open to all users at all times, and no email there ever goes unanswered. Moderators and Admin answer every question and concern to the best of our ability. Of course, this information is cleverly hidden within the site rules, so I’m sure that many who are in ignorance of this fact.
I find that some things that are true in life are also true in forums.
People don’t always have the emotional maturity to accept the consequences for poor behavior as their due, and must look around for a scapegoat… and/or take some action to vent that anger. This is to be expected, and I hope prospective POF members take this into consideration before being put off by these negative testimonials.
Most of the users who are bitter about having been suspended have no IDEA why they were really suspended because they were too angry to listen when we notified them of their voilation, and they never bothered to read the rules for themselves (presupposing that if they were “nice” they were fulfilling all requirements). In this kind of scenario, some people find it easier to think “moderator is picking on me” than “My behavior is unacceptable, and I need to modify it”.
As a user here has previously stated, there are a handful of moderators and millions of users on POF… in order to continuously catch the attention of moderators, there is a serious problem with that user’s postings.
I am happy to answer any questions or concerns that any user or potential user might have, just look me up on the site, and shoot me an email
To Whistleblower:
Yes, I’m the same Tia. You know very well that others on my message boards were the ones who were saying they were going to spam the forums. You know very well that I posted to those comments on my boards telling them that wasn’t the way to do it, that creating competition was a better form of revenge. That spamming PoF’s forums wasn’t going to do anything except cause trouble and lower them to PoF’s moderators’ level. Whistleblower, otherwise known as “Brawnydog”, you know that not once did I condone that type of behaviour from my members, and said so on my boards more than once.
Also, how is it possibly spam for me to post ONCE saying that people could contact others if they want information about a website. As far as spamming inboxes, how the hell did I spam inboxes when the only people I contacted and told about my message boards were friends of mine? Sorry, you’re offbase there.
If I were deleted for spamming inboxes, then PoF owes me an apology. In actual fact, I sent the website address to a maximum of 10 people through PoF, if that, since most of my friends were told via MSN.
I still feel that it is a TOTALLY unprofessional way for ANY forum moderator, volunteer or otherwise, to take information from one message board and use it to “punish” people on another website completely, which Whistleblower freely admits to doing. Sad state of affairs that, and proves the “power-tripping” attitude that he, specifically, has.
Your comments, by the way, were not ignored, I simply have better things to do than check this website on a daily basis in order to rebut your childish fallacies.
It was extremely interesting to me how my profile wasn’t deleted until I questioned whether Markus knew that “brawnydog” had actually been taking information from one website to use as punishment on another. Suddenly, within two hours of my asking him that, my profile was deleted. Not when I allegedly “spammed” the forums with my one post that was quoted above, and not when I allegedly spammed inboxes with my message board URL (sent only to a maximum of 10 real life friends I met on that site), but when I questioned whether or not the “boss” knew what kind of unprofessional, childish, petty behaviour “brawnydog” was displaying on his behalf.
As far as Pandy’s comment above about people being bitter because they have no idea why they were deleted, it doesn’t always have anything to do with not listening. It also has a lot to do with never being told anything. Like one specific friend of mine who had never said anything in forums on either site to get her deleted, and never received a single warning for any purpose, but woke up one morning to find her profile gone. Yes, she was very bitter, and had no idea why she was deleted, but not because she wouldn’t listen. It was because the PoF moderators/admin never bothered to say a damn thing to her.
I haven’t anything personal against the mods/admin with the exception of brawnydog. I take his lack of professionalism and underhanded form of punishment personally on behalf of any of my friends on my message boards who were deleted or banned because of information taken from one place and used on PoF for that purpose.
Whistleblower, you aren’t a whistleblower when you twist situations to suit your purpose. Too bad you don’t have the balls that Ticket and Pandy have. Post under your mod name, brawnydog, take responsibility for your posts under the name everyone knows you as. *laughs*
I agree wholeheartedly with Tia. Wow….whistleblower is actually Brawnydog? Who would have thunk? I too have to publicly say this: I have no problems with anyone on POF other than the moderator known as Brawnydog. He is unprofessional, he is underhanded and very power hungry. He also takes out his personal grudge on people who don’t agree with him.
Oh and yes I agree. Tickettoride and Pandy posted under their POF username. Why don’t you have the balls to do so too, Brawnydog? Why are you hiding under a different name to post all these nonsense. Atleast learn something from them, be a man and post under your original name, Brawnydog. What are you so afraid of? Tell the entire world, how underhanded, unprofessional and stupid of a moderator you really are, why don’t you? But, I doubt you’d say that, eh? No matter what, you are going to deny everything you have done to all these people complaining here. We maybe unable to complain there for fear of getting banned. But, no one is stopping anyone from doing so here.
Regarding this little bit that Pandy said:
“As a user here has previously stated, there are a handful of moderators and millions of users on POF… in order to continuously catch the attention of moderators, there is a serious problem with that user’s postings.”
I was on that site, posting in forums, talking to friends through email, for well over a year. I was NEVER banned, and had NEVER “caught the attention” of any moderator until I created my own message boards to be able to continue to post and communicate with those of my friends who were banned. One for saying nothing more than “Where the hell did all the threads go?”
My first, and only, forum ban came AFTER brawnydog chose to be on my message boards and use things said there to punish people on PoF. The accusations above are amusing to me. I never spammed any inboxes with any URL, nor did I ever threaten to spam the forums at PoF with anything. My one post regarding the fact that I had another place to post was deliberately vague so as not to be spam, or “self-promotion”.
My comments about getting even were taken out of context, and used to the alleged advantage of the person known as brawnydog to make himself look like he’s not the power-tripping moderator he’s being accused of being.
I still find it hard to believe that someone who wishes to be known as a guy running a website in a professional manner would condone such behaviour as using things that people say on a completely different message board to create reasons to punish them on PoF.
It simply shouldn’t matter what anyone says or does anywhere else, if they behave in a responsible manner on PoF and follow the rules there, which I did. There’s nothing in the rules that says you can’t tell your friends about another website you go to, as long as it’s in private emails and not on the forums. It’s not like a message board is competition! *laughs* No matter how you look at it, the reason for my receiving a 14 year suspension from the forums was weak at best. Underhanded and ridiculous is much closer to the mark.
Let me clear up a few misconceptions:
*moderators do not have access to deleting profiles. Only admin has access to that function, but there IS an auto filter in place that deletes profiles based on a variety of different keywords one of which was the website of the aforementioned “spinoff” site as it became obvious (through many deleted postings) that this site was harvesting POF members for the gain of their website. I’d hazard a guess that this explains the “vanishing” profiles of your board mates.
*The user “whistleblower” is not Brawnydog. I appreciate the user’s words in defense of this site, but his/her syntax and word usage is not that of the POF moderator known as Brawnydog. Another good example of the detractors here shouting out erroneous conclusions without facts to back up their claims.
*Users who were suspended/deleted from POF were done so legitimately… even HAD POF users been penalized for trashing POF on another site, we’d have been well within our rights as per our terms of service , which states:
[quote]The Service contains information which is proprietary to us, our partners, and our users. We assert full copyright protection in the Service. Information posted by us, our partners or users of the Service may be protected whether or not it is identified as proprietary to us or to them. You agree not to modify, copy or distribute any such information in any manner whatsoever without having first received the express written permission of the owner of such information.[/quote]
and
[quote]CODE OF CONDUCT
You agree to use the Service in accordance with the following Code of Conduct:
a. you will keep all information provided to you through the Service as private and confidential and will not give such information to anyone without the permission of the person who provided it to you;
b. you will not use the Service to engage in any form of harassment or offensive behavior, including but not limited to the posting of communications, pictures or recordings which contain libelous, slanderous, abusive or defamatory statements, or racist, pornographic, obscene, or offensive language;
c. you will not forward chain letters through the Service;
d. you will not use the Service to infringe the privacy rights, property rights, or any other rights of any person;
e. you will not post messages, pictures or recordings or use the Service in any way which
i. violates, plagiarizes or infringes upon the rights of any third party, including but not limited to any copyright or trade-mark law, privacy or other personal or proprietary rights, or
ii. is fraudulent or otherwise unlawful or violates any law; and
f. you will not use the Service to distribute, promote or otherwise publish any material containing any solicitation for funds, advertising or solicitation for goods or services.
g. you will not use the Service to distribute or up load any virus, trojan horses or do anything else that might cause harm to the Service, Plentyoffish systems or to other members’ systems in any way.
h. you will not post or transmit in any manner any contact information including, but not limited to, email addresses, “instant messenger” nicknames, telephone numbers, postal addresses, URLs, or full names through your publicly posted information
[/quote]
The users who spoke of POF moderators, practices, and moderation style violated our TOS, leaving themselves open to a valid termination of service.
This is irrespective of the fact that POF reserves the right in it’s TOS to terminate service at any time without notice if it is in the best interests of the site. I believe this is standard practice on most websites.
Many users of the spinoff site who eventually lost their privledges were noted to defame POF moderators by name (including myself), this I saw with my own eyes.
How could any of us possibly have known of your site, Tia???
Errrrr….. perhaps it was the dozens of posts advertising “come to banned camp” …or perhaps a web search on the terms “POF” “PANDY” might have done it (as that’s the way I randomly found your little site, in addition to finding the erroneous information posted here). Yet another example of your reaching erroneous conclusions and stating them as fact.
I’d suggest to those who employ words in this thread such as “unprofessional” and “unfair” take a look at their own unethical practices of mining users from another site with the use of libel , and of encouraging organized sabotage of another site.
The entire premise of the site in the beginning was an organized way to complain about Plentyoffish and bash it’s moderators and administration. If users were so happy with their new site, why the effort put into demonizing plentyoffish and it’s volunteer staff?
I’d also suggest that anyone reading this and making the determination as to whether POF is a good site should visit the place for yourself (it’s free , after all).
Again, I’d remind the causal reader to consider the source. I would highly question the motivations of any complainer who has put this much effort into defaming any organization. Blogs and websites dedicated to bashing? Many hours put into finding every websource available to complain? I’m afraid these do not sound like the actions of a person who is employing a great deal of reason or objectivity.
For whatever reason, I’ve been deleted and everytime I make an account, it gets deleted within minutes. I don’t know why or how come as I’ve been a member on there off and on for a year and a half. So from my experiences lately, I think POF needs to do some work on their site. I didn’t get an email from the Admin why or how come,….just poof…GONE!
I’ve met alot of nice people on that site and was hoping to meet more, but looks like I’ll have to go elsewhere. I also know other people this has happened to..why??? Nobody knows.
How incredibly trite and predictable, ~Tia~, that you automatically assume that someone posting to directly refute your posts is the one who gave you your walking papers. No, I am not Brawnydog, but I am a fellow member of POF and the Nova Scotia forum which saw everything that you and your ‘friends’ did that led to your appropriate removal from the site.
Anyone who was there knows you are so full of ’stories’ and that things did not transpire as you claimed here on this review.
Thank you, Pandy and Tickettoride, for coming here as well. I find it incredibly indicative that I have been attacked by “Raksha” and “~Tia~” for being completely honest about what went on.
And then they wonder why they were banned.
Canadianguy said:
“For whatever reason, I’ve been deleted and everytime I make an account, it gets deleted within minutes. I don’t know why or how come as I’ve been a member on there off and on for a year and a half. So from my experiences lately, I think POF needs to do some work on their site. I didn’t get an email from the Admin why or how come,….just poof…GONE!”
It sounds as though you’ve gotten an IP block Canadian guy… something you’ll have to contact admin about.
WOW, everything that has been said here is very true, with the exception of the mods “opinions” There is a lot of deception on this site. I have been on POF for a couple years. Have never read the TOS nor will I, paticipate in the forums on occasion but have yet to be banned but I fear my time is coming. It is true that there is favortism on the forums and if a mod is having a bad day, it is taken out on the forum posters. Interesting that Brawny has been brought up, he is by far the worst mod there is, considering that he has no life, lives with momma and does NOTHING but use his so call authority of being “MOD GOD” to fulfill his life. All of the mods do not have a job, are either raping the system in one way or another or raping an X. Admin, aka Markus. What a joke that is, I will say you have one helluva an idea here, I will give you credit for that but your poor choice in mods is yoru downfall. As for “Power” that the mods have. I will say this, they have lots of power as I have found out from a mod of the past, Michael Grieco. I had my account “changed” once, went to a mod and all they could say is that I changed it. Yeah right, I changed my own profile to make myself look like an ass. Further more, I was the only one who knew my password and only get on POF with my PC no other PC and NO ONE uses my PC. That is pretty obvious that it was done on the inside.
If you are not a “Mod Groupie” then forget about trying to be yourself and honest cause if you say the one thing that someone dislikes, you are gone. And as for MODS not having the power to ban or delete people, BAD MISCONCEPTION. I have seen it done several times over the years. It is just too bad that MArkus can not find mods that are inpartial and can be at least professional about thier job and not be someones pouppet because one of thier groupies did not like something that someone had said.
I read that it was stated that Markus should change moderators frequently if he want sto have a good site to stay this way, he should and or at least get mods that DO NOT participate in the forums and can keep an open mind. Someone who will take the job seriously and actually analyze the problem instead of lets say deleteing a whole thread that might make sense but maybe delete just the persons post that caused teh problem, yes this can be done seen it in the past but not no more, the mods now just delete the whole damn thread and when you start a new one up, a mod will come back and delete it.
Here is the most ignorant part of it. they say that only Markus has the power to delete accounts, ie profiles, hmmm, why is it that you will see mods, and just recently, Pandy bragging about how she had banned someone for I forget and X amount of years. Too funny. Now if you are gonna ban someone, let’s get real here, ban then for like a week, 30 days, what ever but this 1 year, 3 years and I have seen 20 years, OMG, get real. USE YOUR SENSE!
The forums are a good way to meet people, I have met plenty of people with just the forums and I can get a feel of what kind of person they are by thier posts but when you get thier posts deleted all teh time, that just went out the window. The forums used to be fun, and I have seen that ever since Markus “Hired” his Mod Gods” they have gone to hell. The sad part is that POF will be around but it will never be like it used to be like. It might get teh Hits but that is only because of the Forums, just what is the success of the site, have never seen any numbers on this. Just don’t expect much from this site, you seen the price, you get what you pay for.
Would just like to point out one more little observation here. I do not see any real good remarks about POF here only from Markus and the Mod God’s, even the Mod God’s who are hiding, yes Brawny, we know who you are. But rest assured that you will see an over abundance of Cheer’s about the site as soon as the “Groupies” are informed to do so. Damn, I hate it when the truth bites ya in the ass. Also you can see by the “Mod God’s” response’s here, how really professional are they? Ticket’s post, can ya feel the anger in his words? Pandy? Can ya feel her Post PMS still? It is all in the words, use your best judgement. And Markus, come on man, this is your site, grow some balls and defend it. But I know it is hard to defend something when you know what has been said here is the truth and you have no valid defense for your poor choice’s.
I need to clarify myself here, No, I was not slamming “Brawny” only speaking the truth. I do know him and still, the answer is NO, I do not wish to talk to your Mother one the phone. Piece of advise for the “Mod Squad”, Loose Lips Sink Ships! And yes, I know that I have power being as I know a Mod Personally and have “Tested the waters” and asked if “He” would get rid of a few threads for me. Which he did so with no questions asked..
Hey Milinda,
You mean the truth biting those here in the behind, kinda like what I did in pointing out exactly what went on in October regarding the spamming ~Tia~ and others did on the forums?
Get a grip, really. If you are so sure I’m Brawnydog, why don’t you prove it? It appears to be that it is far more productive for you and others here to attack me for spilling the beans on the truth of the matter with accusations that I am a moderator, or, at the very least, a “Mod Groupie”, than it is to acknowledge the truth of what I said and try to refute that.
Far be it from you to take the high road, isn’t it? It’s much much harder to disprove the truth than it is to openly bash others as you have Tickettoride and Pandy here too. Deflecting the real issue and muddying the waters is an old tactic, and quite transparent. You could’ve tried a little harder. Maybe next time, eh?
Good day!
Yet, another interesting but TRUE tidbit. All the other dating sites boast about thier success’s and document it and encourage the couple’s to come forward and tell thier story but, on POF when you see a thread about how someone has met thier “Match” you better read it quick because the “Mod Squad” will delete the thread claiming it to be a “Attention/Self Pity” thread. Now why would you even do such a thing? I dare anyone that is going to think about using the site, search for success stories first, you will find NONE yet, there are many undocumented thanks to the “Mod Squad”. Personally I would want all the positive feedback I could get but I guess Markus is not interested in that, he is after all raking in all that revenue from the adverts.
i am konfused…i cannot find anyway to chat as it says you can on the 100% free site…i tried to register and it says i am registered…but it doent tell me how to get into a chat if i am registered…i am konfused..can someone help me to find a site that explains how to use plentyoffish sites…i did one time have a woman pm me to chat…but never could find how i can use this feature.
thanks…alex
Pandy..
Your comment saying how you found “my little site” is a complete lie. Sorry. My site doesn’t show up in websearch engines, since it’s not a separate entity from the domain that hosts it. I’ve done the search, just to be sure, and it’s not there.
There was no violation of your terms of service by stating opinions. Sorry, but that wouldn’t hold water in any court of law. Anyone is perfectly free to state opinions based on their experiences, regardless of TOS, since it’s an opinion, and is not stated as a fact.
There was no “mining” of members by myself, there were NO “multiple” posts saying to come and join “banned camp” by me, and once again, the ONLY people I contacted were people who were personal friends of mine.
There was NO suggestion or condoning of any sabotage by me on my site, or anywhere else. I made it quite clear to my members that I did not condone sabotage. I posted it in the thread they were discussing it in. I don’t censor their discussion, but I am not responsible for their actions anywhere except on my site.
As far as you stumbling across my site, you and I both know you didn’t stumble there, and you certainly did NOT find it in any web search.
Whistleblower, please get your facts straight. I did NOT spam any forums, and I did not spam any inboxes. I made ONE post on the forums when someone asked where we had all gone, telling them they could find out by contacting certain people. As far as I know, it’s not against any PoF rule to tell someone how they can get the information they’re looking for. That was my single post regarding the subject. Again, I am not responsible for what other adults do anywhere except on the site I admin. If they chose to spam, that’s not my responsibility, but I was certainly painted with the same brush.
My banning from the forums for 14 years (that’s a bloody joke) was a direct result of my creating the other message boards for my friends to chat on. I know this, because brawnydog told me DIRECTLY in an email that it was the reason. His words were”I read the other site” and he said nothing more about it. My profile was deleted immediately after I asked him if Markus knew he was using information from an unrelated website to punish people on PoF. I still wonder exactly how much Markus is aware of what some of the moderators do on that site.
As far as only admin having the ability to delete a profile, that’s bullshit and all you moderators know it. It came directly from TrappedonBayStreet that if enough people “report” the same profile it is deleted by the automatic filters. It’s pretty easy for the moderators to find enough people to report a profile and get it automatically deleted if they want to.
Either way, some of the moderators on PoF are powertripping assholes. Some of them are good people who are doing a job, voluntarily. Some of them do it well, some let their personal feelings get in the way of proper moderation.
I wish all of you who are still on the site the best of luck in finding what you’re looking for there. If you never want to come up against a moderator, then don’t ever post in the forums.
Also, my dear Whistleblower, whomever you are, if you are going to make accusations, have your facts straight. I did NOT, at any time, ever include myself in conversations regarding spamming the PoF forums except to advise against it. I did NOT spam inboxes, I emailed half a dozen or so of my offline friends. I did not attack you, if I had, you and everyone else would have known it. If I came close to attacking anyone, it was brawnydog, and you and Pandy say you are not the same person, so the attack, logically, could not have been directed at you, if it was harsh enough to be considered an attack.
High road? There is no high road when you are forced to defend yourself against lies, twisted information, and ridiculous accusations. You can only respond to what you are given, which I have.
I think I’ve said enough regarding the situation that occurred, the truth is out there. If anyone wants to discuss anything further with me, there’s enough information around for them to do so. I won’t be posting here again to defend myself against false accusations. If there is any further defamation of my character with false accusations, there are other means to deal with it, and I will utilize those instead.
Again, good luck to anyone still on PoF or choosing to join. Keep in mind there are other sites out there, PoF isn’t the only game in town, and some of the other free sites are as good or better, whether the PoF mods who are posting here, or their groupies, want to admit it or not.
Pandy, I thought you were a fair moderator. However, I’m sorry to see you are the same lowly life like most of them. A guy that has been contributing to the forums in a great way has been banned. Why? Because one of your friends insulted his g/f in a thread. He got mad and emailed her privately. Then she complained to you, and you banned him for 2 years? Wow! And you let the rule slide for her. And since this guy is very popular and well liked by many long timers on there, he asked someone why he was banned and what should he do. Do you know what they said ( those people who are YOUR friends too). They said that if he apologized ( for something he has no fault in to begin with) and got on your side, you would be flattered and would take his ban off. They even told him to butter you up since you let rules slide for anyone that is your friend. I’m not surprised at their advice though. I was well liked by many on there too ( I still am) and one of the regular posters on there told me to flatter Brawnydog and get on his side so he would let rules slide for me too. I thought only the moderators known as Brawnydog and Tickettoride did this. I did not know you could fall to this level. I liked you because although you suspended me for 3 days once, you were very fair. And you answered my email. That is why I thought you were a fair and just moderator, but I’m completely baffled by what you did to this man ( whose name I won’t say on here). I guess the only moderator who is just is LATE. I’ve never heard anyone complain about him. But, there have been too many complaints about Brawnydog and Tickettoride and now Pandy. And the lie you spewed about finding Tia’s site on the web search justifies that you are not really telling the truth in any of your posts on here.
I’m saying the truth here because I’m a regular member on pof forums even now and I’ve seen this unjustly things happen to most people who speak their minds. Don’t believe a word of what these so called moderators say on here. Go to that site, join it , post on the forums for a week and be sure to speak your mind and see how soon they ban and delete you. If your view differs from a moderator, no matter how tactfully you present it, you are deadmeat and banished from the entire site for as long as 2-20 years.
Thanks.
Pandy -
Thanks for your input, but I tried to put an ad from work…same shit, different pile. Just like others I know who were on there, they just went to other sites out there you don’t have to worry about being blocked for no apparent reasons.
POF = Plenty of *uckups
Markus is a nazi asshole.
Thanks everyone for all the efforts reviewing pof. Explains alot.
Yes, agree with the heavyhanded stuff, I never did the forums-always kept my ose clean…older female-I didn’t play games-didnt keep changing my name all that stuff….I politely bowed out when ignored or deleted. Was on for a while. Wasnt into online nookie. I reported once in a while pyscho profiles or rude replies..they.didn’t get deleted.
BUT! when I spoke up and reported a “man” for stealing a photo of mine and putting it on his profile, I wrote to him and said “no way”.. My profile was deleted fast…no reason why.
I posted about this in the help forum. , I revised my profile stating the problem since I was worried that I had been hacked…my profile disappeared-cookie message was the clue..
.I read all the faq’s and rules, it said if your profile was gone…you could open a new one I did. The new one would work for a few minutes then poof gone. I will miss keeping in touch with the few penpal I had.
I most likely have that IP block mentioned earlier.
So if you are good and can take shit, then you are welcome…whoa! speak up…you get the boot. I did write admin, no reply.
I wouldn’t mind an explanation…maybe I will try again to email admin…but all things considered, maybe I’ll just leave it be…the men, for the most part,in my small town didn’t impress me.
You get what you pay for-isn’t that the cliche, ?
Sure, the propaganda is that the fellow running it is a hero but money corrupts…more power to him for having the foresight/idea to do this…good for him but there seems to be a few flaws…
And yes, I did catch the other sites mentioned…and I will gladly pay when I find one I like. Gosh, seems a good way to get people to use the pay sites….
Nite. thanks for listening.
I just have to add that I was talking with some ladies I know on there over the weekend who are JUST friends…and they say they’ve lost their favorties for whatever reason and can’t deal with the BS that POF has. At my age….in my 40’s, most of us are on there to meet someone…not play *ucken games like this Markus character does. So whatever is up your ass Markus…pull it out and swallow it.
[quote]on POF when you see a thread about how someone has met thier “Match” you better read it quick because the “Mod Squad” will delete the thread claiming it to be a “Attention/Self Pity” thread. Now why would you even do such a thing? I dare anyone that is going to think about using the site, search for success stories first [/quote]
No testimonials on POF? That’s untrue, we have many pages full…..BUT, they are deviously hidden on the forum main page in a section titled “testimonials”.
We apologise for all the confusion and will attempt to make our forum sections a little more clear as you were apparently placing your testimonials (and looking for them) elsewhere?
le sigh.
Kanchi said:
[quote] A guy that has been contributing to the forums in a great way has been banned. Why? Because one of your friends insulted his g/f in a thread. He got mad and emailed her privately. Then she complained to you, and you banned him for 2 years? Wow! And you let the rule slide for her. And since this guy is very popular and well liked by many long timers on there, he asked someone why he was banned and what should he do. Do you know what they said ( those people who are YOUR friends too). They said that if he apologized ( for something he has no fault in to begin with) and got on your side, you would be flattered and would take his ban off. They even told him to butter you up since you let rules slide for anyone that is your friend. I’m not surprised at their advice though.[/quote]
Another good example of someone adding up 2 and 2 and getting 5.
Majestic Lizard was an intelligent and contributory poster, who I had regarded, at the very least, as a friendly acquantaince. I enjoyed his thoughtful posts very much. However, he had a long, long history of
sharpening his wit on users in a mean spirited way when they said
something to annoy him. This had been discussed with him many times
to no avail as he had an “I don’t like these rules, so I’m not going to follow them” attitude. He mistook popularity for rules complaince, and he was
evenually suspended from the forums after many opportunities to modify his behavior.
That I require “buttering up” to release a ban is erroneous. It’s pretty common knowledge that we prefer not to use expulsion from the forums until it becomes absolutely necessary, and I’ve made no secret of the fact that I will review a suspension for ANYONE who requests such a review, and exhibits
that they have familiarized themselves with expected behavior and are ready to comply with the rules. A simple ” I understand the rules now, and I’m ready to follow them if you’ll give me another chance” is pretty much the “open sesame” password to avoid a ban, if that message is delivered sincerely and is followed up on, If you wish to consider that my power tripping need for boot-licking, you are more than entitled to do so…. that doesn’t make it so.
Had Magestic approached me telling me that he had reviewed the rules (as I asked him to do in our last conversation) and that he understood where he went wrong, he would have been given another chance to post within the rules. He chose, instead, to be harassing and verbally abusive in emails. Cutting off his nose to spite his face.
HIs “debate” opponent? My supposed “friend”? I had never heard of her until I saw her posts in that particular thread. She was also dealt with for her violations in that altercation.
.[quote]And the lie you spewed about finding Tia’s site on the web search justifies that you are not really telling the truth in any of your posts on here.[/quote]
I don’t believe that I did state definitively that that was the source for my finding “banned camp”, I stated that that’s how I find THIS site … the one I am currently posting on. I was pointing out to her that sites can be found with key words in a web search, but apparently I was wrong, and such is not the case with her site. I can tell you that it was never a well kept secret … we deleted many, many “come to bannedcamp.ca” posts on a regular basis.
To imply that we had to go into deep cover to uneart the site is kinda ludicrous under those circumstances
[quote] I’m saying the truth here because I’m a regular member on pof forums even now and I’ve seen this unjustly things happen to most people who speak their minds. Don’t believe a word of what these so called moderators say on here. Go to that site, join it , post on the forums for a week and be sure to speak your mind and see how soon they ban and delete you. If your view differs from a moderator, no matter how tactfully you present it, you are deadmeat and banished from the entire site for as long as 2-20 years.[/quote]
anyone who looks in the help/suggestions forum can find the occasional post from a disgruntled user, and you’ll find that they are still up.
Modertors answer questions as best we can IN THAT VENUE.
The rules clearly state that protests about the site and it’s moderators are off topic , and not allowed in any other forum. These kinds of posts are disruptive to other forums and threads. Would you go to a hotel and scream complaints in the lobby about it’s service, and expect to be left to your own devices?
POF is a privately owned entity, just the same as a hotel or a restaurant, and we do ask that you lodge your complaints in the appropriate venue within the site, that does not mean that complaints are not allowed.
Thanks to everyone who has read this ongoing dialogue and kept an open mind about the issues involved.
Just an FYI for Pandy. My site is not, and never has been “bannedcamp.ca” so I’m not sure you’re even talking about the right person/site.
However, I still stand by my statement that you could not have deleted many, many posts saying to go there by me, since never once did I post anything with a URL in it for the site, and only once posted *anything* at all about the site, which was a direct answer to someone asking where we all had gone, to which I replied “Contact privately a couple of those who know, and they’ll tell you.” That was the single post that I made on PoF’s Forums regarding the fact that there were so many people from the Nova Scotia forums who had left due to the way they were being treated by the moderators.
The URL was *never* posted in the forums by anyone, the only way to have found the site would have been to either be invited, or to invade the private inbox of the users who were invited, or to invade the outboxes of those doing the inviting.
So, there is no other way you or any other mod could find it other than by underhanded means, since there’s no way in hell anyone who was invited to my boards would have invited them.
Sorry, but thems the facts, Jack.
I beg your pardon about the mistake in website URL, someone had sent me email mentioning bannedcamp just before I came here, so it was fresh on my mind, and I typed it in error.
“The URL was *never* posted in the forums by anyone”
It was, indeed, posted on the plentyoffish forums…. several times, in fact.
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So, there is no other way you or any other mod could find it other than by underhanded means, since there’s no way in hell anyone who was invited to my boards would have invited them.
Sorry, but thems the facts, Jack.
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As much as I loathe spoiling your “gotcha” moment, it’s simply not true that moderators have access to mail.
But , you seem rather emotionally attached to your vendetta… so I’m sure I won’t be able to change your mind .
I went to your website to copy and paste posts I have refered to here which defamed myself and other moderators only to find that I’ve been banned?????
I find that QUITE ironic.
had a great time 4 a month or so, suddenly I was banned (perhaps 4 using it as much as I did) I had 3 profiles going, some better than others. one day all gone…………..whata shite……tryed everything, ……………must have planted a GPS or alike…………I was doin so well………seams everyone doin well has the same story. Marckus.your a shite dealer…………..let you and your fish drown and the next……….philanthropist (unlike Marckus TOSSER)..make the next site
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[quote]I went to your website to copy and paste posts I have refered to here which defamed myself and other moderators only to find that I’ve been banned?????
I find that QUITE ironic.[/quote]
Why is that ironic? Did you truly expect that I would allow any PoF moderator to remain a member of that site when they were using information from there to punish people on PoF?
Give me a break Pandy, you’re not that stupid. I absolutely would not allow you, or anyone else, access to that site if I felt it would somehow harm my friends. Some of them actually wanted to stay on PoF, and merely came to my site to be able to use the message boards and not have to worry about being banned for posting more than 1-2 messages in every ten, because that’s considered “chatting” or being banned for asking a question about what happened to a bunch of threads.
same same here…banned after ‘meeting’ some good guys…some flakes.and couldn’t write to say byebye…oh well it was all a learning experience. And yep, it seems everyone agrees…pof sucks for those who stumble. I have a question…who on earth do you apologize to…? I mean, it’s kinda like what?…the pof almighty is unreachable…do this on a forum? but then can’t get on a forum…
Don’t know if I would ’cause i don’t know what I did..
Tthe biggest question…
has anyone found a reasonable alternative site, I don’[t mind paying…BC (Western Canada) players…thanks.
All in all, my experience was pretty good at POF.
I was a member for a bit and met some cool people in my time there.
I didn’t participate in the forums so I don’t know about any of that stuff that’s been discussed quite at length, but so far as the site is concerned, it does what it says it does and there were always plenty of people online to talk with.
The only problem being that I live with three other roommates, two of which had also signed up on our computer after I had a pretty good date with this one girl I met. We were all deleted by the end of the week.
It sucked, but it’s not the end of the world. I mean, it DOES make sense, whether you feel cheated or not. I can’t say any of us really thought of it when we were all aboard, and we never got an email explaining why we were banned, but when all three of us were deleted on the same day it didn’t take rocket science to figure out why.
We tried making our profiles again, but they were all deleted in no time. So if you have roommates, you might want to all use your own computers.. unless it goes by the IP address, in which case, I guess you better keep it a secret from your mates!
My summary for the above arguments: I agree with both parties.
I do think there is a line that has to be made so as not to completely compromise the site’s integrity. POF has made it and there’s not much they can do about it. Rules are rules, and they’re there to make it an enjoyable place with real people.
And in defence of the naysayers, I can’t vouch for the forums, but I do think that there should be a way for the same IP to have different accounts, if it’s possible. I’m not a computer guy, so search me how to do it. Maybe even just proof of address if the same IP shows up. That way, us poor student types can still find more women without having to get all suited up for the downtown meat market.
Peace
I tried to register but no matter what username I choose, it was taken.
I even tried “gdggfhaksfhakfhadk” or something like this… Taken… No way I said.
Then, decided to quickly launch my own dating site: .
Well, the design sucks but overall … if you join, you will help me populate it and maybe you’ll find your match.
It also has some incentive program for members, so, if you advertise it, you can rank higher and contact more members.
It looks like the site URL disappeared… probably because I used some special characters. Here it is again:
http://www.1love4u.info
hello john, you said a mouth ful there.
i too believe that admin reads the reply’s therefore that word to the wise is confirmed.
it was interesting when i read the review by dave, that he mentioned putting my postal code being canadian into the zip code box , did send me to many pages of the homeless. lol
this site has not not found me anyone yet . i must be too fussey. lol
Just an update. We realized that the name 1love4u.info was not the best, so we quickly changed it to http://www.onelovenet.com.
Pandy, you need to untangle that tampon string of yours. You lie and your feet stink. MODS DO HAVE ACCESS TO E-MAIL Accounts!!!! Why don’t you be honest for once oh, I forgot, it is hard to be honest when you are accustomed to lieing all the time. What a joke you are.
Pandy lies and her feet stink? Is that your online version of neener-neener?
Milinda, why not try growing up a bit? I mean, if this is how complainers of POF behave outside of the site, it is no wonder that you were ousted for behavior while on the forums.
The sane folk know that moderators have no access to email. You can scream, offend, insult, and cajoole all you wish, but claiming Pandy lies and that her feet stink doesn’t make your argument that emails are compromised by moderators more believeable.
It does make you look pathetic, though.
I think moderators are really jerk.They are so stupid.Can u belevie i open a new account and it will be deleted in 5 minutes….
i will concur with the comments about heavy handed moderators who play favorites and dump on poeple publicly, even suggest, without provocation, that the matter be continued offline,
well that is my experience after being trashed by a female member in the forums
i couldnt agree more, every time i make an account on plentyoffish, it gets deleted within like 5 minutes even while im logged into it! just vanishes nowhere to be found, no bad lingo or pics either or nothing, no phone #s websites email nothing at all, and if ya cant have multiple accounts on that site how am i supposed to remember my very first account to delete it?
This is complete bulls**t! I know that I have gotten preferred treatment in the forums, and it is partially because I will kiss ass to the moderators (sad, but true).
I have still had several friends get their profiles deleted for no good reason. So anyone who tries to say that “mail or forums are not read” and the site is “too large to keep track of all who commit wrong” is only kidding himself.
The Admin on the site is a total fag-jerk who doesn’t know what he is doing.
POF has gotten me laid a lot, and for that I am thankful… not much else.
Pandy, I would look you up and shoot you an email on POF, but you will just get me deleted for no good reason like you do everyone else!
To borrow a phrase from above.. “what total garbage is posted here”!
This is a fun site on flirt-coach. Has anyone though of making this a dating gathering too
Wow, this thread sure has come a long way since I last visited.
It seems to me like we have two camps here.
One, all the pof staff who think it’s the best thing since sliced bread,
and two, all the users who think it’s a pile of shit.
I’m with the users, it’s a pile of shit. It could be good but you’d have to sack ALL the staff and get a new lot in first.
Well said Buster. I think the admin of POF is a nice enough guy. But he is a total idiot. He has no clue whatsoever on what the moderators are doing behind his back. They are like the second in command and banish members like they are gods. They should honestly give the boot to Pandy. Thank God Brawnydog is gone. I guess everyone really did hate him afterall. I guess the next one will either be Tickettoride or pandy. Well….there’s some hope atleast.
I got banned for no apparrent reason after being diligent about not harrassing anyone, not being a “jerk” as they so vaguely put it, and not posting nudity. Best part is, there is NO WAY to review it or ask why. I lost contact with a few people I came to like talking to. The best part is that the system automatically filters out email addys, so if you post it in an email, the other party is still forced to use the system. If you get banned, tough luck. As far as I’m concerned, this place can kiss all of our collective a***s and I’m done with it. I met 3 women even remotely worth talking to, the rest were either totally psychotic, downright rude, or desperately seeking any breathing male. I have yet to find any site, paid or not, that is any better than hanging out at a local bar and meeting women. Just my 2 cents.
i’ve been searching around and found this site and it seems lots of people have the same problem as me. i heard about the site and joined, all was well and good, then suddenly i was logged out. when i tried logging back in, it didn’t recognize my name, even though i got an email saying me registration was successful. i tried looking up my username and it didn’t come up with anything. so i tried re-doing the application again, it seemed to go well, then again i was logged off and my account was gone.
it sounds like i was deleted/banned, but i have no idea why! my pictures were decent, there was no profanity in my profile, i had only sent one email and that was prefectly polite.
free is free but it would be nice if it worked.
i agree with the above.. do it in person. at least, bypass this site. if first impressions are what it’s all about, this site would be one lonely mofo
On the subject of POF I would like to say this.. I was banned for three years for such a silly thing I was actually flabberghasted, I never spammed or swore in the forums yet they saw fit to ban me for 3 years for what you ask? on the testimonial page where people can exclaim something to the effect of “I have found my dream guy etc” you can post a response most people give a jaded response like “see you back here” or OMG that isa too soon watch out” etc. my simple comment was a stock line I qouted from charlie browns the great pumkin ready for the reason I got banned? here it is “all I got was a rock” yep! that’s it! I got banned for three years over THAT lol now how silly is that? no pof needs to clean house of it’s current moderator staff.. I think they are stalinist to say the least , power hungry..no doubt. while I think some people should bve banned I feel it’s gone out of control…….I AM PROOF
pof could be a nice site but it needs work, the current mods have to go.
Wow……K. Aldrich. Which moderator was that? Sure, sounds like a power hungry prick. Now I’ve seen it all. And here I thought I’d seen and read all the unfair reasons for being banned outta pof.
@racksha
His name is LATE, a guy who seems so far left he actually crossed over the border to Stalinist.. he is proof that being that far left is in fact dangerous..granted it’s only pof we’re talking here but imagine if that guy ran for a public office at some point [shudder]
K A
Well, I’m glad I browsed through these. I’m glad I went with OkCupid and not Plenty of Fish. I’m sure as hell not going to bother with POF now.
Thanks everyone!
any site is better than pof…you know in the forums, which are a joke btw I cought a moderaror flaming a friend so I regurgitated the forums rules to him in sort of a flame like fashion….yeah they booted me and I expected that they would but the scray thing is they blocked me from contacting the friend I defended and those are private eh’ supposedly private emails..
creepy
creepy
creepy
the moderator “late” is a pea headed geek possible frustrated cop
worse is the moderator trappedongayst. he’s just a boorish lame brain who takes to flaming nice women [an obvious case of sexual dysfuntion on his behalf]
the sit is not worth the web space it takes up.
K. Aldrich
I’m so happy and feel somewhat “validated” after reading this thread.. I was a Member on POF and enjoyed the Forums as well… Out of complete NOWHERE I was attacked by that weird strange long haired, living in the woods guy, LATE.. I never once was anything but ” adult” and kind in all of my posts on the forums, the guy just seems to “pick” you like a weirdo, after three nice emails to him asking if there may be a mistake, he rudely replied, telling me how to act like an adult.. ( like i was asking HIM for advice.. ) The whole experience was quite disturbing to say the least. YES.. the Moderators not only READ your emails, they delete them if they dont like them.. VERY CREEPY place.. I do not recommend it at all..
Whew.. I feel soooo much better!! Thank you thank you .. ; o)
And PS..
Markus, I only had ONE profile. Quite frankly the site isn’t THAT good that I would want to waste the energy..
I think there is more to this than meets the eye.. If this guy gets paid per “click” then obviously he would want to promote having people create “multiple profiles” .. so he pays these weirdos to push people around and ban them.. Very clever .. but is it legal??
If it is Legal, then it shouldn’t be.. Very disturbing..
Oh my god.. I just read Pandys post up there.. Do you see what I mean.. they are all weird about pages and pages of rules that they have layed out.. and yes.. they continue to harrass, and stalk the members and flame I might add for no reason at all.. Its all a SCAM.. and Pandy.. dear.. I asked you nicely ONCE.. You reeeeeeally need to step away from your computer dear..
UMM MARCUS, I think Barbara has found you out .
I think there is more to this than meets the eye.. If this guy gets paid per “click” then obviously he would want to promote having people create “multiple profiles” .. so he pays these weirdos to push people around and ban them.. Very clever .. but is it legal??
I would like to see your retort to this allegation..I think it’s An astute observation and a valid assesment of what is ACTUALLY going on with your site.
something tells me you won’t respond to it run coward run….LOOSER!
I am going to find out for a fact how your being payed and exactly how the #’s of clicks are counted I’m thinking you and your site need a little investugation anyone else agree?
These are a direct cut and paste of the pof rules , remember this is a forums board where one my be able to answer or interject a one line all encompassing phrase to make ones point. as you see below.. IT IS AGAINST THE RULES. but i submit that no one could completely and utterly abide by the rule 100% of the time it’s just not based in reality [that one was for you late] I question a person who touts himself an “intellect” but finds no irony in the more than ridiculous and unrealistic “rule” he so ardently polices. has he ever once given a thought to how ludicrous the actual “rule” is? sorry but the facts speak very clearly to me that this man is not functioning on all 8 cylinders. can anyone really be THAT inept? guess the answer is an obvious one.. you know I heard Charles Manson was an intellect of sorts I guess there really IS no correlation between high IQ and common sense, further one could sum it up very simply in the proverb “a psycho is as a psycho does” what I find chilling is that last statement or summation wouldn’t be allowed on the very forums we are speaking about ….coincidence?
In the end we are talking about a forums board, nothing more! have these eh’ moderators no life at all? I hate when I’m reduced to asking for answers to obvious questions. if any of the sub human mods would like to joust me on these points I think you’ll find me both a willing and able adversary, I warn you had best bring a razor sharp sword because it looks to me that over 90% of those posting here just don’t see your point. have a super day…
read the rules, they make for better than average comedy..
late™
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Posted: 11/16/2006 2:51:08 PM
Those who tend to be chatty will find that their minimum text allowed will go up proportionate to their “one liners” on the forum, those who post substantively and avoid chat won’t notice a thing.
if so are members going to be made aware of the minimum amount of letters to be used to be able to post?
Nope, that’s proprietary, and dynamic.
Those who try to bypass this will be dealt with too.
Posting patterns that cause text limits to be applied:
Chat posts
Or, participating in chat threads
Off-topic posts (including; patterns of dropping “one-liner” joke posts in threads, posting opinions of other thread contributors as opposed to the topic, off-topic “soap-boxing”, etc.)
Or, participating in hijacking thread topics
Troll posts
Or, habitually responding to them
Flame posts
Or, habitually responding to them
Those who participate predominently in “problematic” local forum “problems”.
Rule breaking in general.
In short, if someone posts in threads where there are problems, and they’re contributing to the problems; this is a way to curtail – the problems.
If they’ve been suspended for:
Chat
Flames
Thread- Jacking
It’s also likely that they will also have a permanent minimum text limit applied as a pro-active measure, if that doesn’t work? There are other more permanent ways of dealing with this.
Late is a bastard to be precise. I hope he rots in hell.
God….that site makes me fume so badly!
Those ridiculous rules only apply to the newbies.
The 40+ old regulars get away with it no matter how much
they flirt and chat with each other on the forums.
What a hypocrite and what a bullshyt site!
I don’t know if i would go as far as to say that, be that as it may, you can rest assured he is quite a lonely man indeed, karma’s a bitch…. aye late?
Hi maybe you can help , I have been trying to get on POF and everytime I register a nice profile , it sends me an email saying thank you for registering amd seems to work ok for 5 min and then my profile disapears, so I create another one and the same thing happens ? How can I get on POF ? any help would be nice. I have emailed the POF administrator over amoht ago and they never replied.. Please help
Mike
your ip address and or email was banned mike, nothing left for you to do except to go to a friends house or library and get a new email address [not related to your current one] and reg. that way ,once you do that you can log in from your own computer..
Thank you K. Aldrich, but I have tried to register from work and at a friends house, and it does the same at those places. Unless the IP address was banned there too ? I don’t even know why they banned my IP address I’ve done nothing wrong , and said nothing wrong. I’ve even chenged my IP address, and email address several times> It still deletes my accounts withing minutes. I have read in the forum that it has happen to many others to be banned or removed for no reason.. I have tried to email POF but no reply , it’s kinda frustrating and makes no sense. Do you have any other solutions , as I liked that site and want to go back on ? the POF administrator should let us know why we have been banned for no reason it’s rediculous…
Any help would appreciated (anyone )
Mike, maybe you should file a lawsuit against them. Why not? It’s a valid case. Dating site admin creates a “free” dating site but removes and bans members without any warnings. Where’s the customer service? Technically you can file a suit against the administration because they are making a profit out of it not from the members directly, no. But they still are. Besides it’s false advertising. If someone can sue McDonald’s for serving hot coffee, this seems to be a very very valid case.
it may be a valid case but what are the damages/? lol lack of… oh forget it the judge will have a good laugh with this case..
Mike,
yes those ips are banned as well, there is no other reason! admin will never get back to you so forget that angle. you have to keep trying on different computers till you find an unbanned ip. the other thing is…are you SURE your new email are not “related” to your banned one ? no refferance can be made upon sign up of new email address of your old email address
only thing I can come up with here
Kenny
Well thank you you kenny for the try to help… I just don’t understand why they would of blocked me when I have done nothing wrong ? Also if they did block my IP for a reason or another , what if it was one of my friends who created on account on POF on my cumputer and he did something wrong on POF and they blocked my IP addresss why am I being blocked for that ? I mean that’s not fair if that’s the case ? There has to be a better way for POF to give good reason why they block people for no reason. They should do it another way. Ya it’s free alright but you can’t get on lol …….. Nice free site. So if anyone else has an answer to how I could get on please let me know
Mike
very possible that IS what happened! the mods are jerky to say the least, more brains than common sense [I live near yale so I know it when I encounter it!] nicer way of saying heads are up their collective asses. if were you I’d try another free site..pof has gone freaky >!
I have used POF for about 2 years and really enjoy it. I’ve never had any problems with the moderators. I’m very active in the forums and have never had any contact from a moderator regarding my posts and threads. I have noticed that when a person becomes rude and hateful and is down right nasty to other people, the moderators will step in. It seems to me, the mean and nasty don’t appreciate it. I’m certainly not a favorite of the moderators…I don’t know any of them and suspect that as long as I’m polite while speaking my opinions, it will remain that way.
Dboatwright ..think again read all of the above comments not only the ones I wrote but by some of the others…pof is a freakshow your day is coming bank on it…
I agree with K. Aldrich read above Dboatwright, I am one who was on POF and was always polite and nice and my profile was always normal, and I got booted for no reason and they copied my IP address and now it is imposible for me to get back on. I have dont nothing wrong, and if you read above you will see that it has happen to many. I agree that maybe some do get booted for being nasty , but many , like me got booted and banned for no reason read other forums it will say the same… I am still not able to register cause they banned my IP addresss for no reason and that’s not right . Like K. Aldrich said your day is coming bank on it…
I appreciate the warning…I’ve been a member of POF for almost 2 years off and on. Maybe my number just isn’t up yet. When it is, I’ll come back here and cry and moan about it!
One question: If it’s so freaky and the moderators are such jerks, why do you want back on?
Because I was on for about 3 weeks and it was kind of a cool site. It’s not the site that I have problems with , it’s the moderators and the fact that it’s only one guy who is running it and that monitors it. If you send them a message or an email he never gets back to you. I mean a girl can send you a a message on POF and lets say you never respond to her and she gets pissed off and sends a message to the moderator and says you where a jerk to her and it’s not true , you just didn’t respond to her, they ban you and block you , is that fair ? They should tell you why you where banned and blocked. I did nothing wrong on that site…that’s my point
I don’t want back on, it’s a freakshow nope! not intersted anymore.
“!somewhere”, is the latest minion/ tattletale/ troll..he is not a mod, but is allowed by the mods to do as he pleases (he supposedly makes the moderator’s job easier), he bounces from thread to thread, “enforcing the rules”..he even starts his own new threads..most poster’s live in fear of banishment, and are afraid to speak up against this guy. he is a Canadian friend of “Late”, and spends most of his time reporting minor infractions, in the forums rules violations thread. he even breaks the rules, and is allowed to get away with it.
admin., if you are reading this..please do something about this. i now see that his reports are hidden from his profile. as another member put it “he has too much time on his hands”.
“Reddragon” is the nicest guy on the earth. He has many friends. He too, was banned from the forums. He is mad at me right now, because I told him that he was so gay, that his chapstick is c*ck flavored.
If we are to think that moderators check all profiles and make sure “non real” pics aren’t posted…you are sadly mistaken. There are so many FAKE pics on there, men and women, and i too had a beautiful pic of a native american couple holding each other (fully clothed) and it emphasized true love. I was told it had to come off because it did not portray what the site believes in..i.e.:..finding true love (cough hack cough..)..sorry, just choked on those words. My point is, i debated the issue with a moderator (who i’ll have you know hit on me but i refused to meet up with him) and he threatened to take our debate to “higher means”..Waa waa…so do it. I’m right, your wrong. Then they decided to change the rule and now it’s not only NO NUDES, it’s any “web” pics or anything other than yourself or an altruistic from of yourself. So i had a field day emailing him with all the fakes pics i came across, but it got too time consuming and what good did it do? The pics are back up there. I swear the moderators do have their favs and one moderator in particular just checks out the female profiles.
As to answer the questions of long ago regarding if they can read emails. I’d have to say yes, or how would they be able to BLOCK the ones that have “messaged people for sex or intimate encounter”..???? Hmmmmmmmmmmm…..makes ya think doesnt it?
I was also suspended from the forums until 2009 because I questioned the actions of a moderator. He was editing AND moderating a thread and removed all posts that disagreed with HIS opinion on the subject. I’ve seen it done time and time again and finally got fed up. They also allow posters who agree with their side of the discussion to flame at those who don’t. Flaming is listed as a no no in the forum rules but it seems there are TWO sets of rules in the POF forums. One for the mods, their friends, CANADIANS and those that agree with their position.
POF is a Canadian based site. There is MASSIVE US bashing in the forums. The moderators DO MUCH of the US bashing. I have yet to see a thread that talks about anything POSITIVE when it comes to the US and it’s citizens. Actually US users are treated as second class citizens in the forums. We are classified as stupid, uninformed about OUR OWN COUNTRY AND IT’S POLITICS, we don’t know US history but apparently the Canadians do (LMAO) and predjudice BECAUSE we want tighter borders and more protection of US citizen’s due to 9/11.
I’ve read more conspiracy theories on POF than I thought was possible. Did you know 9/11 wasn’t a terror attack it was planned by the US government so politicians and their friends could make money on any wars that were the outcome of 9/11? (roflmao) That’s just one of the few wacky, idiotic and uneducated theories to be found on POF.
My recommendation? STAY AWAY FROM POF unless you are Canadian or a US citizen who hates their own country. Also, stay away if you have an opinion of YOUR OWN because you are suspended from posting if that opinion doesn’t agree with the opinion of the moderators. If you like to kiss someone’s azz rather than post what you feel then by ALL MEANS join the site and post to your hearts content while your head is inserted into the mods backsides.
POF forums are over run with Moderators wanna Be’s I see so many fake accounts on POF forums daily The Censorship levels are now at the point of being a joke.I don’t have the interest to post in the forums anymore like DT Charlie pointed out it seems soon that You will be debated every on every single post with a Moderator about the topic.Most well run forums AND I HAVE SEEN MANY! the Moderators are aliased and do not post
I think the Owner of POF should take it into consideration(not using his name I don’t want to be sued for slander) it would probably be less hassle as it is now they are running freely with Digi-God complexes questioning every one like a Tax Audit
I believe that the U.S. should sell Canada immediately.
“Reddragon” is the nicest guy on the earth. He has many friends. He too, was banned from the forums. He is mad at me right now, because I told him that he was so gay, that his chapstick is c*ck flavored. ”
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I happen to know Reddragon The Guy is a legend in the forums on POF
Why He was banned is beyond Me.He is one of the nicest Guys aroundothers trolls run rampant in the forums and they ban a class act like Reddragon,the Guy use to get fan mail for Christ sakes!!!!!
“One for the mods, their friends, CANADIANS and those that agree with their position.”
Pat,
I’m afraid I do take exception to this. If you have read my comments above, you’ll see that I am no fan of PoF, nor are they a fan of me or any of my friends who used to be on that site.
I’m also Canadian. I was born here, and have lived here all my life. There may be a large number of Canadians who appear to be favoured by the moderators/admin of that website, but believe me when I say that it sure as hell isn’t all of us. There aren’t any special rules that favour all Canadians *just* because of our country. If that were the case, I wouldn’t have been banned for 14 years for the heinous offense starting my own message boards so my friends could chat in threads that they started.
This Markus is a total knob, I am so glad there is a forum where we can exchange views about this moron……………..he also censors all comments on his private post site.
http://plentyoffish.wordpress.com
Try posting there, he deletes anyone that disagrees with him, what a coward!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fire you were thrown off the site after repeated complaints about you stalking/harassing women. Now you are trying to mass spam / harass me under multipul usernames on my site. If you don’t stop, I will get a restraining order to keep you away from my sites and go after you for slander. I will also talk to the ontario provincial police and turn over records of your harassment of over 50 women on the site and your lame posts on mine. Being that you are a fightfighter accessing the internet via a government computer you must know that your career is over if I report you.
As for all the forum complainers, complaining because they can’t post anymore get a grip. There are 400,000 people who use the site per day. 80 of those users post more then 10 posts a day. Plentyoffish is first and formost a dating site. No one wants to watch a couple of serial chatters chatter back and forth for hundreds of posts and derail every thread. Just looking at this thread normal people would shake their head. I swear in the forums I feel like a babbysitter every couple of weeks a bunch of 40 year olds start acting like 2 year olds because they can’t turn the forums into their personal soap opera.
Markus .. bark all you want.. but the truth is.. people with class .. such as myself.. and many others that have experienced your lovely little business venture, do not appreciate the “classless people” you have representing you daily..
The weird little man ‘Late” who should be living in the woods with his computer and his brush for his HAIR.. had no reason to talk to me the way he did.. ( like I was really looking for his advice).. just a scary lonely man who cant make it happen in the real world.. The whole experience was creepy to say the least..
Class matters Markus.. even on the internet….
The moderators at POF are very heavy handed and being a moderator has gone to the heads of one in particular.
Her nickname is Babylonia. She banned me from posting in the forums until 2009 because I said I would never of wanted to meet up with some Bandito biker who was murdered and also had a POF profile.
I was banned for speaking the truth…*my* truth.
One more comment. Whenever you send Marcus an email to mention anything his mods have done..he does…NOTHING.
The guy only cares about earning a profit.
As for all the forum complainers, complaining because they can’t post anymore get a grip. There are 400,000 people who use the site per day. 80 of those users post more then 10 posts a day. Plentyoffish is first and formost a dating site. No one wants to watch a couple of serial chatters chatter back and forth for hundreds of posts and derail every thread. Just looking at this thread normal people would shake their head. I swear in the forums I feel like a babbysitter every couple of weeks a bunch of 40 year olds start acting like 2 year olds because they can’t turn the forums into their personal soap opera.
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Dear Marcus,
You profess about fair treatment and equality on POF,Why are Your MODERATORS not aliased like on most well run forum sites????????
it would sure cut down on the Drama that takes place in Your forums
Why are un aliased MODERATORS allowed to favor users over one another???I think You over look how how much the Forums do in popularity for the site.
I swear in the forums I feel like a babbysitter every couple of weeks a bunch of 40 year olds start acting like 2 year olds because they can’t turn the forums into their personal soap opera.
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Exactly!!!! A bunch of 40 year olds! Atleast I agree with you on this, Markus. But let me ask you this……why don’t the whiny, chatterboxes for 40 year olds ever get banned ? Why do YOUR moderators only target 20-25 year olds when these 20-25 year olds are the ones that don’t start 4 O’Clock tea party on every thread in the forum. Some of your “esteemed” regular 40 year olds are the ones always chatting around. And why would not they? After all they have been doing so for years and years on the forums. And then when they break the rules, their moderator friends let them get away with it. All these people complaining here are not complaining for nothing. Each of them have a valid reason. I read these reviews and joined Plentyoffish to post on the forums about 4 months ago. I could clearly see the heavy handed way in which YOUR mods performed their tasks. I never got banned though. But I’ve seen people who do nothing get banned simply because they disagreed with either the mods’ minions , people like Somewhere, Opheliabon bon and others and/or the mods.
You know this happens, Markus. Yet, you have turned a blind eye to all the corruption on your site. You have no excuses. It’s your site, and these people are working for you. So, it should be your job to monitor them. But then when do you ever get tired of earning money from false advertising, eh?
Hmmm, what do I think of POF?? Well..it’s free, it’s easy to start a profile, all the tools are easy to use. There is an abundance of help in establishing a profile and even tips to assist you in writing a profile that will make your experience more memorable. The search aspect of the site is easy to use as well. As far as the dating aspect, well that depends on yourself and how you approach others. So overall, I like the dating aspect of the site..and of course it’s free so a win-win in that sense.
Now the forums, well…their obviously the center of the problem. How their moderated, alleged favortism, an admin who just doesnt seem to care wth goes on there. I admit that at times it looks like that. You watch some get away with chatting and breaking rules, while others are severly punished. Especially if your the person who gets banned, your angry, frustrated, you just feel like venting. Some cool down, others exact their vengence in the forums. At the mods, at the establishment., and at the people who they think are being favored. Anyways..I dont nessecarily agree with what others have said here. I can definetly see where their coming from though, in some cases at least. I do however; like the forums. Their well laid out, easy to use, and judging from the replys and other spaces devoted to hating them..well their damn popular. My only advice to Marcus and the Mods would be to alter the banning format. The perma ban after 3 strikes should be better scrutinized. More suited to fitting the crime. Perma banned for persistent flaming and attacking others, is totally understood, but for chatting or flirting seems a little harsh. Perhaps a 1,3,5,7,14, gone format. Again if the person is persistently attacking, then that’s where you step in and perma ban. I think this would reduce the amount of disgruntled people, and probably the trolls as well. It would also keep around people who i think contribute to the popularity of the forums as a whole. Their also people who help new POF’ers get around the site. This of course is JMO.
Overall, I’d give POF great marks. It gives people a FREE alternative to online dating. It’s definetly user friendly, just have a thick skin if you go into the forums.
class matters.. even on the INTERNET Marcus..
Now the forums, well…their obviously the center of the problem. How their
Markus is an idiot. Plain and simple. Who cares if its free? He constantly deletes Wiki information or edits it to make his site seem to be earning more than it does. His own website says that if you make an error on your registration as a new user you are not only deleted but banned. What a moron.
The points are are realy moot as many good ones as there is,POF is dropping in popularity do too poor moderating I’m currently active on the forums they are no where near as interesting as they use to be.
The bitter out looks by the Moderators to new people joining decrease users wanting to join with their insipid attitudes putting down others on certain topics,Talking down to people gets You no where especially a being a Moderator as I have said many times POF would be a much more popular place with it’s Mods aliased.
everytime i try to get onto plentyoffish website it keeps telling me can’t find server but use to get on to it no problem
can you tell me if i am doing something wrong
everytime i try to get onto plentyoffish website it keeps telling me can’t find server but use to get on to it no problem
can you tell me if i am doing something wrong
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Elsie,
Sounds like Your IP address has been blocked entering the site call your service provider and have your IP changed it is very simple…….
Changing your IP address violates no Internet Laws call Your provider and have them change it……I have changed My IP over a 1000 times very simple thing to do.
Hi all looking ford to getting some good laughs from this forum, witch I all ready have this place crazy but in a good way.
See ya
Hi all looking ford to getting some good laughs from this forum, witch I all ready have this place crazy but in a good way.
See ya
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Vasnillagirl
You ain’t seen nothing You should see Me on POF it is Total mayhem
I have two brothers on the site they are both computer programmers
it’s a barrel off monkeys believe Me.
If woman are allowed to pose with virtualy nothing on,eg.showing off a lot of their breasts, wearing a g-string & exposing more than expected ,see
thru shirts,than why can’t I wear my rubber shorts that does’nt expose my genitals? It’s just an out line for women to see the pakage.Women can show off what they have ,men should also,totally not right!!!!!!!!
Hey jlhozn………..when Your IQ reaches 50 you should sell…..
Hey Mike,
Stop crying in Your cereal The Owner of Plenty of Fish is not STUPID,
He is attracting more male members by being lenient on female …users do the math,more male members logging into the site surfing means more money like it or not the Female Sex Symbol out sells the Male symbol easily.
Besides name one Woman that would want to see You rubber shorts,WHO ?in the Blue Hell wants to see that?????
GoodDay,
How are you doing hope is fine with you there, well i find your in mail adderss my net searching ,am joy by name , i want to know you more and to have a nice time with you i am 27 yesr old , am from sierra leone free-town, but for now ‘ am live in dakar senegal, i want to know you better, and if you like to see me on cam you can give me time you will be free so that we can chat online,and try and add me to your yahoo chat line (favour_love60@myway.com) if you like to know more about me .email mehope to read from you soon .
Did I miss something here?? lol..
WTF
Good grief……what’s with all the fake posts all of a sudden?
I never joined POF but used to read the forums and was always amazed at how heavy -handed the mods are to anybody that so much as looks at them the wrong way. Are all dating sites like this? Evidently not. I won’t be joining Plenty Of Fish any time soon.
more proof that spammers dont read where they post their nonsense eh’
It is nice that plentyoffish is free. The site has connected a lot of people. It is however, a bit rough
i have had, what i consider to be, some pretty harsh experiences in the forums at plentyoffish. i can imagine that lots of others have too
it is seriously mean, petty, and you get ganged up on. when you push back, suddenly the admin is trashing you publicly in the forum
threads vanish after 70 people have commented on them, no explanations are ever given, it is not possible to give explanations, that is the best explanation you get
i think any one who understands business can see many of the problems at plentyoffish form a mile away. Sure it is making money, but at what price and potential liability?
However true frind’s claims of ‘running it all himself in his apartment’ are, it is likely that he is really getting a lot out of whatever resources he is putting into the project. That makes me wonder what the exact potential of the concept could be.
well i just decided to delete my plentyoffish account
after the way the forum moderators behave, i just cannot trust the rest of the system or the person in charge with things sensitive to my heart,
Lots of folks say, it is the moderators fault, change the moderators. I say bah, i have seen it too often. The guy at the top empowers the type of people he empowers and that is that.
It is ironic, if it is true that marcus is trying to get into social networking. Social networking is really sad at pof.
I mean, anyone can find an environment to hang out in that is full of bullies, and underhanded actions against people, that is nothing new
Now i think maybe it is the way it is because marcus is trying to minimize his operating costs. Unfortunatly he is building a large pool of badwill in the process. There seems to be a group of bright people, growing every day, that has been slighted by pof, that group is not going to be choosing marcus run social networking over the other choices out there. They have already been drawn in and hurt by the guy once. Time to try and trust some other one.
To the men: Internet dating doesn’t work. And POF is possibly the WORST of all dating sites. You’ll do way better in the real world.
To the women: your ego’s surely get stroked using POF, but rest assured, you’ll get nothing of substance out of it.
To the POF moderators: dudes, you had a good idea with the forums, but you ruined it by acting like a bunch of tin-pot dictators. Consequently, your site just plain sucks.
To everyone: stay off POF. POF is a POS.
The four letters posted march 26 and march 27 remind me of the daily show when they have all these clips from various TV news networks that show a bunch of supposedly disjointed politicians all saying the exact same words at the exact same time. The point of those clips being brought together like that is to show that there is some back room agreements going on where people are saying what they have been told to say as part of some political scheme.
the only difference with the four letters of march 26 and march 27 is that no one has to run around finding the clips that all say the same thing, cuz here they are sequentially posted
Good work. Thankyou :- ) Thankyou!!!
Here U go. Find a nice dating site http://www.RightLover.com. A pretty simple neat free serveice.
Only if the person is a poor actor. Many people get over for years.
Alot of fake profiles? And why would that be? Maybe cuz it was the only way to get answers and not get prejudged or attacked if you theought someone else was asking the questions.
And like another user said. Sometimes it was all about appearance. In order to get ANY response or acknowledgement you had to appear to be a pretty young female or get totally ignored. Attractive female profiles tend to be more tolerated and treated nicer, hence one reason you get fakers.
People do it (fake) cuz they can. There’s no verification system in place. Don;t tell POF that tho, you’ll get deleted. lol
Its because POF mods will beleive anything bad you tell them. They don’t care about proof. And thats just wrong. Some stranger telling a Mod this other stranger has a fake profile and doesn’t provide proof should be shrugged off until proof is provided, but they don’t. Its VERY poorly managed.
I believe that Dr. Strange is “the most dangerous man in North America,” and an Angel that has taken up with Satan against God. He is spearheading POF into a Satanic “media pornography” tool for facilitating America’s moral decline; assisting the Soviet Union’s conspiracy against the American people. I believe that this “moral decay” of America will culminate in the ground invasion of the United States by “Satanic” Russian and Canadian forces.
I was on POF for about a year. Had no problems until the roommates started using the site as well. One was lucky and deleted his profile while the other and myself were deleted by POF. I am assuming that by using the same computer it noted the ip addy and then assumes you are spamming or using a fake profile. The only thing I am pissed about is the lack of answers from the Admin Deptartment. Had emailed them several times to no avail. I was not a poster in the forums, did not break any rules. They should tell people on the sign up page that if you use a shared computer you might as well not bother as you will be deleted. Just my two cents. Would be a great site if they had better support.
I originally met *RedDragon* back in ‘Nam. I know him lonngg time! This man has nerves of steel. He’s always had my back, and he once took a bullet in the face for me. Don’t let his cold hard looks decieve you. He has a big heart, like Santa does on Christmas. He’ll give you the shirt off his back too…once when he was gambling with me in Vegas he handed his shirt to me and told me to pawn it. All kidding aside, this man stands for many things in life, including freedom and human rights…he was my friend at POF, even when Tom from “my space” wouldn’t be my friend…Here’s to my buddy, my friend, *RedDragon* AKA (Dr.Strange).
POF used to be a pretty good site however, now it has become overrun by the “admin gestapo” as my friends and I like to call it.
One bad apple does unfortunately ruin the bunch…..POF = plenty of freaks, plenty of fakers, plenty of fools. I posted a kudos response to someone who posted on the forums, some freak named Sparticus e-mailed me privately to shove his opinion down my throat however, when I complained about him they deleted some of my pics….go figure! And they wonder why all the good people have left frustrated with the Nazi admin. Whatever…..I do just fine in the real world. Thanks to this site I’ve got other new free sites to investigate. Thanks everyone!
I found the site to be buggy especially out bound e-mails do not seem to be sent correctly. The site has some funny broken links in it. I was told by one mod that there were not broken but part of some system involving parties another mod told me they were in fact broken. This is frightening because if the user help volunteers are just pulling answers out of their collective – whatever – the user base will just become more and more frustrated.
I’ve seen no real evidence of bias by the mods. but reading through this I see that most of the regular posters seem to be mods. I have seen tht in the issues of complaint about real system failures I have been faced with mods under what appears to be a siege mentality.
Since I use the same handle every where I’ll get back to you if someone retaliates for these comments.
JACEM
I was mocked, and then banned by most of the posters on this thread:
Relationships Thread: Women are to be put in the traditional subservient position within a family unit.
You people are the Devil! Silence, Devils! Let me make my point! You have cut me off from the forums! You will not allow me to make my posts! You mock me! You will not allow my righteous viewpoint to come forth! And, and,the Ten- and the New Commandments have stated that the woman must get back in her place! She belongs in the kitchen! And she doesn’t belong out..
I’m a regular poster on POF forums who has actually met and talked to live women from the site and who has had posts deleted because I got too involved in at least one flame war.
The diatribes posted above by some of the people that have been booted are pretty convincing evidence that their booting was completely reasonable. I’m glad they’re not fouling the next. General Bubba is certainly trying hard at present, whatever toxic waste is hiding behind his odd title.
POF is a victim of its own success. That’s why people are trashing it and Markus.
Markus and the mods? Keep up the good work.
Cheers,
Mike (you wonder how some of these posters manage to keep their computers working with all the frothing going on)
I only had my POF account for a few weeks before it got deleted and i was banned with no explanation I did not have nudes, Fake accounts Nor was i a forum basher. I tried to contact them to find out why this was but to no avail. Which is a shame because until this point i did not have a bad word to say about the site or the forums.
pof is it’s own worst enemy,
first of all it is a dictatorial organization, only one person profits monetarily, the others have to be content with the power it gives them over others
wow, suddenly there are a lot of very short posts, all the short posts praise the site,
all the short posts are posted after a certain date, previous to that, there were no positive comments,
my guess is that inside the mod forum at pof, someone has suggested that people go to this thread and post positive remarks about the place, some of those mods probably encouraged some of their minions to do the same thing, this is just my guess, based on the timing of these short positive remarks in this sea of thought provoking commentary detailing imperfections with the pof site. All these little comments say basically the same thing, that is ‘thanks’. To me that says that even the content of the message has been dictated.
here is all i really got to say to pof, think about how long it takes for you to trust someone socially, then think how easily and quickly that trust can be ruined, then think how impossible it is to get back that trust, now add that all up with what most business term, repeat business, or building relationships. Or how about all that word of mouth action you used to get?
ok, did you do all that?, well good, and cheers
Am I to understand that Fag Markus is actually threatening someone else about “slander” on here??????
The way he violates Freedom of Speech on his site, is this not a classic case of the Pot Calling the Kettle Black??
OMG! Get a clue you fagboy jerkoff from Vancouver, and just kiss all our asses, will ya!?
I’ve been a POF memeber for a little over a year now. There are times when I enjoy the forums very much……and then there are times when the unfairness of the moderators create a great deal of frustration.
Early in my membership I was banned temporarily by a moderator for what amounted to nothing more than making a fool of her boyfriend in one of the threads. Since then I’ve seen others banned unfairly, without warning, and for insanely long periods of time or even “for life”.
A recent incident has caused me much more concern and has me considering leaving the site. A woman about whom I care a great deal was being harrassed by a man who lives near her. She asked him to stop contacting her……she “blocked” him repeatedly……she “reported” him as the site suggests you do and the harrassment continued. Obviously the “blocking” and “reporting” don’t work for everyone. She sent several messages to moderators and to Markus asking for help but not only did the harrassment continue but she got absolutely no response from anyone. In an attempt to get this creep to leave her alone she put a note on her profile that he was “being mean” to her and included his name {on the site, not his
real name} and after he sent her a message telling her what he was going to do……HER profile was deleted without a word from anyone else at POF and she’s unable to open a new one.
I’m VERY disappointed in the site, the moderators, and Markus. Giving preferential treatment to the moderators and their friends in the forums is one thing…….failing to protect a woman from harrassment and banning her while allowing the guy to remain and harrass others is so far out of line and inappropriate that I don’t think I even want to be a part of that site anymore.
It’s really a shame…..because basically it is a good site, but becasue of this type of behavior it’s a good site gone bad.
I have been on this site of POF and I was getting on well with some people suddenly my profile was deleted without any reason. I f things like this happens we should be warn so that we will be carefull to the mistakes we make. I think the administrate will overlook these type of problems which are occuring.
on april 19th to april 26 there were 11 messages posted , all with less then 6 words, all basically saying good site, and nothing else, I dont consider any of these comments to be a contribution to the discussion,
if i just came here and said crappy site without explanation, i doubt anyone would give my comments much credence either. So that is why to me , these little messages are merely BS. If you like the site, say why. get taken seriously…
Note from Editor: These messages were spam comments and have been removed.
HI Friends,
It seems a lot of people are in trouble with plentyof fish, Let me share my experience.
I am from India, a old member of plentyoffish (think 2002), one fine day my profile got deleted without any reason. Once upon a time there were lot of Indian profiles in POF then everything got deleted.
I tried to register again but it went in vein. I cannot able to create a single profile outside US UK Canada and few handful countries. India is a banned country. What makes worry is that The site takes the email address during registration process that then it says email already found in database (even if it is newly created email address). I mailed the admin but no reply. Regarding forums, you need to be a member to post there is no way to post asa guest (for telling registration problems).
Guys, I too have a free online dating website named http://www.bepenfriends.com if you wish come and enjoy there.
Thanks
Albert
I checked out the site. It seems ok at first glance. I noticed that they have it scripted to show you people who are supposedly in your area on the front page. I’m not so sure about the forums. To play devils advocate here — users need to understand that if the user base for that site is as large as they say it is, there is no way they could deal with every single email. You would, however, think that they would try to be nicer to their patrons. It is the user after all who makes them money. Just my 2 cents. dating.ShaunMorganOnline.COm
i have been trying for months to get on this site, and have registered many many times, hopefully they can get this fixed, after registering i cant sign on with my user name and passowrd
i have been trying for months to get on this plentyoffish site, and have registered many many times, hopefully they can get this fixed, after registering i cant sign on with my user name and password,
i have been trying for months to get on this plentyoffish site, and have registered many many times, hopefully they can get this fixed, after registering i cant sign on with my user name and password, ok
For what it is POF is not a bad site. As the posts above show there are some nice people on POF. I have had some nice experiences on POF.
HOWEVER, their blocking mechanism is very heavy handed. As many above, suddenly I have had my account deleted and never mind what I do, I cannot create another account that will not be deleted within a few minutes. It seems if you contact too many people you get banned? Strange for a site that is a dating site.
What I do not understand for a site that says NUDITY = ACCOUNT DELETED, they have some pics of women that are virtually nude.
It used to be the case that POF would allow you to see when you have been banned. It would make POF fairer if they posted who is banned and why they are banned.
Until the blocking mechanism is changed, I process a boycott of POF.
Sorry, I should have written, I propose a boycott of POF
Canadianguy, I seem to have the same problem. I was on the site, then Ideleted my own account, and now after numerous efforts to rejoin, it won’t allow my profile to stay longer than 5 minutes.
It has a thing that tells me to go to tools (which I did), but to no avail. It’s frustrating, as I would love to rejoin.
I have contacted admin, but have had no response. It feels like I am being ’swept under the carpet’.
I have a profile on POF. it is now hided and and I’ll never ever go to the forums again. I contact people I’m interested in, that’s the only way to have a decent experiance on pof.
In china ok, in russia could pass, but in Canada/USA no way.
This site will get in big trouble if the admin doesn’t get help from an intelligent person. Mods have absolutely no sence of ethic. Put Jesus on this site and they will crucify him within five minutes.
Fishing is hiding a hook in softfood to fool the fish.
How on earth can a dating site be named pof. It’s like saying “hey come here to lie about yourself ! ”
There is more rules that the human brain can handle.
You try to help and they accuse you of anything…
(“ALL pictures MUST contain you in it with a visible head shot at minimum”)
Humm.. I usually give more than the minimum. what else can I include ??
And what about the intimates !! ridiculous..
This site is a shame on our countries our people.
Update… I posted before on this blog. I just want to be clear that this is not link spam. I have been checking out plentyoffish recently. They do seem to impose a lot of restrictions on their users, but who can complain? It IS free. I have a free site too. I don’t have near the users that plentyoffish does, but I am already running into people who are trying to spam the site. I don’t know if the staff has favorites or not. If you don’t like the service try a different one — I have one — hint hint
Hi I agree. I have just started a thread for meets and admin has deleted it 3x acussed me of being a pro at the meets. am bloody annoyed its only mt 2nd meet I have organised. My mates decide on a place if its nice and big.And I put it on a notice in plenty of fish. I’m trying to find someone I can complain to about admin. and I have told him he’s out of order accussing me. of such rubbish. I also told him to contact the venue. As they will have no idea who I am.Or when we would have a meet there. well out of order. kels
POF sucks. arbitrary kicking people off their login for NO reason at all… stupid and totally unprofessional. i would never recommend it to anyone who doesnt want to be irrititated by assholes who own the site.
Wow,thanks for the warning. POF doesn’t sound like the kind of place I’d want to look for friends even if I didn’t have my account deleted in five minutes.
Hi Dave—do YOU know how to contact that Markus, the owner of P-O-F–my boyfriend is trying to get a fax # from POF , because a supboena has to be sent there. long story……(no fault of Markus’s). Thanks!-Debbie 6/21/07
BTW, Pandy is a whore!!
Although I do like the forums, it has gotten to the point that posting something the least bit thought provoking is futile. Everything is being deleted that does not follow the narrowest mindset. What good is a forum if you cannot speak your mind? What good is a forum if it is there only for those with special interests. Threads on valid subjects are deleted outright – WHY? I tell you why I suspect: because their content is disliked by one or more of the moderators. The situation is truely sad.
The worst mod is that Late guy who goes around the site goosestepping and banning anybody and everybody he doesn’t seem to agree with. I like to read the Politics and Current Events forum but it’s always the same old tired posters posting the same stuff they’ve posted dozens of times before. Anyone who disagrees with any of these posters are deemed a troll and are soon banned.
If Marcus wants to improve his site get rid of some of the power tripping mods. Late would be a good start.
I am a SWF with no children and I love the POF site! One suggestion I would make is that people not be so intense and have fun with it! Of course there are going to be people who are dishonest, and you may get your profile deleted if you don’t follow the rules, but for heaven’s sake people, it’s a free site and it’s the internet. If you want to be so intense, joine eHarmony where they select who you are matched up with.
Markus I have had my profile deleted for no apparent reason, I have abided by all the rules and regulations and even if I try to re register it gets deleted in 10 mins, why, when one follows all the rules, I am not spam or been abusive in any way.
Yes, I found a very nice lady on PoF.
Pandy is still a whore
Thanks!
With plenty of fish you truly get what you paid for which is NOTHING!! The only reason i stuck around was i got a little addicted to the forums. Even that now is not enough reason to stick around. Those forums are like being back in school with the school yard bullies taunting you.
Plenty of fish itself allows racisim so long as you are black. If you are black you can say any hateful , nasty , racist remarks and plenty of fish will do nothing at all.I have seen white posters say racist things and rightfully so get kicked right off pof . One poster who is named kunta kinta has been allowed to get away with spewing the most vile ,hateful , racist remarks and nothing happens to him.
The people in the forums are famous for their personal attacks on you and god forbid you should defend yourself. you are just supposed to take it and say nothing.Plenty of fish sucks . It is completely worthless and no good at all. You can’t meet anyone off there.
As far as racisim goes someone really need to take a look at the racisim that is allowed to go on there . How come if you are black you can say any nasty , racist thing that comes to mind ,but if your white you get booted off ?? They have a real double standard on that website.
Who polices the Moderators when they troll and flame on the forums?
“M. Barton said:
Raksha said:
“Markus should really take a close look at the behaviour of the moderators. Has anyone but me noticed how those mod’s girlfriends break rules and still never even get a warning? That site is so full of corruption. It’s not going to last long. I personally like okcupid more because it caters to the younger folks and does not have stupid, corrupted people as moderators. The forums on POF would be great fun if the moderators were fair. I think only 3 moderators out of them all are. That too not always. But, atleast these 3 reply to the emails you send if you are having problems. The others don’t even care….esp Brawnydog….he just deletes emails without reading and so does that Trappedon bayst and Tickettoride. I think Pandy and Late are fair moderators. They did ban me but it was for valid reasons. But the others are very unfair! They should be removed from the mod’s chairs. ”
If you garnered the attention of 2 or more moderators for your behavior on a site that has in excess of 10,000 posts daily, then it is you, Raksha, who was the problem. ”
MBarton’s syntax and writing patterns sure do resemble Late(that trademarked moron)and here he’s calling himself fair? What a tool.
“M. Barton said:
Raksha said:
“Markus should really take a close look at the behaviour of the moderators. Has anyone but me noticed how those mod’s girlfriends break rules and still never even get a warning? That site is so full of corruption. It’s not going to last long. I personally like okcupid more because it caters to the younger folks and does not have stupid, corrupted people as moderators. The forums on POF would be great fun if the moderators were fair. I think only 3 moderators out of them all are. That too not always. But, atleast these 3 reply to the emails you send if you are having problems. The others don’t even care….esp Brawnydog….he just deletes emails without reading and so does that Trappedon bayst and Tickettoride. I think Pandy and Late are fair moderators. They did ban me but it was for valid reasons. But the others are very unfair! They should be removed from the mod’s chairs. ”
If you garnered the attention of 2 or more moderators for your behavior on a site that has in excess of 10,000 posts daily, then it is you, Raksha, who was the problem. ”
MBarton’s syntax and writing patterns sure do resemble Late( does TM stand for trademarked moron?) What a tool.
Eww.. That guy Late gives me the creeps.. Be careful people.. the mods have the ability to read your emails.. I think late is one of thosesex starved weirdos.. I had a run in with him and I SWEAR within days I was getting weird phonecalls in the middle of the night..
Barbara said:
“Eww.. That guy Late gives me the creeps.. Be careful people.. the mods have the ability to read your emails.. I think late is one of thosesex starved weirdos.. I had a run in with him and I SWEAR within days I was getting weird phonecalls in the middle of the night.. ”
Re: Late(Total Moron):
What kind of moron would think his screen name could be trademarked?
What kind of pervert would put up a pic of himself and a very young girl on a dating site where he’s a moderator?
What type of third rate likely government funded musician constantly slams famous successful ones?
What type of narcissist could imagine that anyone would be interested in his”hair” story.I’ll bet his old man just gave up to the whining, crying brat and let him have his own way.
What type of idiot would think someone on a dating site would be interested in the death of his mother?
What type of socialist would work for nothing while the site owner is making ten thousand a week?
What type of egomaniac will boot people out of “his” forums because a member might have a different viewpoint?
Toss in the vomit inducing mutual admiration society comments that some moderators have exchanged in the “testimonial”section and one begins to wonder what could possibly be going on in the owner’s mind.
Perhaps he should spend some of his thousands and insist his slaves take some type of customer service course to stop the negative Forum review waves from turning into a tsunami.
I signed up for few dating sites including PlentyOfFish. I didn’t like the website but I was surprised how many emails I’ve got from real members. In two weeks I received 36 emails from guys!
ok whats up wth the crap of profiles getting deleted, i did my profile 5 times and was deleted all 5 times there was nothing wrong wth the pro there was no nudity phone numbers or sites on my pro so y all of a sudden this?? ive had the pro for 4 mnth and then u go deleting them for no reason i wanna know y
I register,everything looks ok,i send a few messages to people who are online,nobody is checking them…..i do some other stuff or wait a while and then its like i logged off.I try and sign back in,no user of that name found.
Happens everytime.It pretends to have me registered but its bullcrap.Someone else have this problem?
I register,everything looks ok,i send a few messages to people who are online,nobody is checking them…..i do some other stuff or wait a while and then its like i logged off.I try and sign back in,no user of that name found.
Happens everytime.It pretends to have me registered but its bullcrap.Someone else have this problem?
Heres the deal, I spent some hours here perusing women and contacting them, and they fall into a couple of categories. Most of them are divorced with children or single with children, and most if not all have no interest in sex. So what does that mean for you? Hours of endless chat if that thrills you. I met, I think, its hard to remember 2 women from here. Both were pretty fucking creepy and I’m not exactly sure what they were looking for, because it wasn’t sex (which was why the meetings were held in the 1st place). So the other obvious answer is body part harvesting or just general robbery with a buddy involved. Now for whats it worth AOL, and Yahoo used to have the best online profiles around, meaning I scored all the time with them. However now it is a pay system so I am out of that loop. What I’m saying is take your time and check out various systems. In this case free is not better, its plenty of trash and perhaps dangerous.
[ernst said: after the way the forum moderators behave]
The Irony of it all … not one mention we have Rules on Site.
Don’t make an Account if you don’t wish to abide by the TOS.
Behave = seeing to it you abide by the Rules, but I guess you’d rather see Cops in Donuts Shops too, huh?
[ernst said: Lots of folks say, it is the moderators fault, change the moderators. I say bah, i have seen it too often. The guy at the top empowers the type of people he empowers and that is that.]
The Guy at the Top selects People who can do the Job.
[ernst said: There seems to be a group of bright people, growing every day, that has been slighted by pof, that group is not going to be choosing marcus run social networking over the other choices out there. They have already been drawn in and hurt by the guy once.]
Lovely Generalization speaking on behalf the entire World.
[ernst said: the admin is trashing you publicly in the forum]
I am sure you will post a plentyoffish link for us.
[ernst said: threads vanish after 70 people have commented on them]
False. The FAQ tell you why Threads are being deleted.
[ernst said: i think any one who understands business can see many of the problems at plentyoffish form a mile away.]
Stating Lo-IQ Non-Sense … ie. nothing said, is also representative of the POF bashing you do here … ie. nothing said.
[Cary said:always amazed at how heavy -handed the mods are to anybody that so much as looks at them the wrong way.]
Facts omitted? Links to Sources are being posted to answer User Questions.
[DownTownCharlie said: He is attracting more male members by being lenient on female users do the math,more male members logging into the site surfing means more money like it or not the Female Sex Symbol out sells the Male symbol easily.]
False. They are deleted daily.
[MIKE said: If woman are allowed to pose with virtualy nothing on,eg.showing off a lot of their breasts, wearing a g-string & exposing more than expected ,see
thru shirts,than why can’t I wear my rubber shorts that does’nt expose my genitals?]
There is a stark difference og your interpretation of “Virtually Nothing” and Nudity. The latter is reported and deleted daily.
[RoboHobo said: POF is dropping in popularity do too poor moderating]
More crap being fabricated out of thin Air. The Forums have been, are, and are continuing to expand.
[Zig said: Markus is an idiot. Plain and simple. Who cares if its free? He constantly deletes Wiki information or edits it to make his site seem to be earning more than it does.]
Wiki is not deleted by anyone, posting spam links on Site is not allowed. Nice twist.
Too much Crap here, doesn’t merit much of a Response.
I’ve had the same problem. I have to register again, only to find within 10 min I’m booted off the site.
It was frustrating. I contacted the site 2 weeks ago….Glad I didn’t hold my breath for a response. As for POF, Marcus needs to spend some of those millions hes making, and hire people to answer email. I’ve now found another free site, which I’m happy with.
Hi Lisa::
which new free site have you found? Thanks,BigB
Big B, Webdate.com Doesn’t appear to have as big a following as POF. Hope it works out well for you.
Big B, if you like forums included on your dating sites, try connectingsingles.com
[This is nothing more than a rumour that moderators and the admin read email]
One of the mods is a major hacker…think they cant hack the system? He admitted it to a friend of mine. He was quite proud of it actually.
[The site’s forums are for everyone, yet there are so many who use these forums to spew,and then once they are silenced, they accuse the moderators of being “heavy-handed”.]
What about hatemail that members receive that Markus doesn’t seem fit to do anything about from Mods? hmmm have to wonder.
[The moderators have long lists of rules that they must follow when suspending someone or banning someone from the forums. They reserve the right to restrict a member’s access to the forums if they are causing a disruption]
Yes but when the mods abuse it and Markus looks the other way is bs…
[and moderators reveal nothing to anyone but other volunteers and the Administrator regarding the account status and actions taken on any accounts.]
Way to go Markus.
This is crap too…said hacker/mod likes to brandish all he knows and does to others by name and did so to a very good friend of mine. Now there is real integrity for ya
[In addition to moderation, they must scan profiles for copyright infringement, unappropriate or offensive images, report them, issue warnings to the member and follow up.]
My friend was told this too…I am a Mod on another site and do the same, it is a tough thing to do. It is too bad that POF has some bad apples in their mods.
[Those who complain about being banned have been warned previously or have caused a disruption that was severe enough to warrant immediate banning.]
Not always true…my friend did not get this curtosy. Actually her ban was twisted from one thing to another when she could prove otherwise that it was unwarrented and could “fix” it to have it lifted. The end result it sits now at a permanant ban that there is proof stating otherwise. Markus will not listen to her though even after that hatemail she received from the mod is harrassement.
[Some of these accusations are outright lies.]
Not all of them.
“Lisa said:
Big B, if you like forums included on your dating sites, try connectingsingles.com
”
Thanks Lisa
Slaay said:
[The moderators have long lists of rules that they must follow when suspending someone or banning someone from the forums. They reserve the right to restrict a member’s access to the forums if they are causing a disruption]
Yes but when the mods abuse it and Markus looks the other way is bs…
The “mod” Late(TM=Total Moron) constantly trolls and flames breaking the rules he so loves to quote.
Who exactly polices the police?
I almost joined yahoo personals to the point hat I gave my pictures and filled out everything except my credit card info. Then I noticed youre site. Now, When I go to the personals the yahoo personals has wemon that have seen me, but I can’t see them unless I pay. Why did they put my pictures and info on line when I did not pay? I won’t pay them. Not while I can enjoy your free services. I thank you very much. I do have problems finding the women that want me to contact them, but it is because I am a great deck and fence builder, but a computer idiot. I will learn in time. Thanks, Dan. I owe you one.
I commend you for speaking your mind.I do the same at POF,and if they don’t like it,tough s*it.
Yep, A LOT of single moms.I did a search for women 29-36 within 25 miles and only 3 women interested me,unfortunately,1 wants 0 kids,so it looks like POF will likely be a waste of time,but I guess that is better than a waste of money.
Same here Canadianguy and I have contacted admin. Nobody answers. IP block and why?
Ahhh….now after reading some of the posts here…im seeing as to why i was blocked. I would make a profile, meet someone and see its going somewhere and then delete it. When it didnt work out, i’d make a new profile. Hence…the reasoning behind multiple profiles come into play under one IP address. An honest situation…but punishes people for no wrong doing. Gotta be a better way Markus. Not fair, not right and hurtful. I know you gotta keep control but there has to be a way where one can have other people use the same computer and access your site.
Any suggestions in how to get ones IP address reinstated? I’ve contacted admin and no answer.
Ahhh….now after reading some of the posts here…im seeing as to why i was blocked. I would make a profile, meet someone and see its going somewhere and then delete it. When it didnt work out, i’d make a new profile. Hence…the reasoning behind multiple profiles come into play under one IP address. An honest situation…but punishes people for no wrong doing. Gotta be a better way. Not fair, not right and hurtful. I know you gotta keep control but there has to be a way where one can have other people use the same computer and access your site. I really don’t see the harm, for the sake of argument, of having 2 profiles up.
How long is this ban for btw? Seems real harsh to have it forever doesnt one think? Even murderers get probation.
Any suggestions in how to get ones IP address reinstated? I’ve contacted admin and no answer.
ter my experiences on PlentyofFish I have to agree with the majority of posters on here.
Originally I went to the site because a few friends recommended it. Now they too seem to have developed negative opinions of PlentyofFish. While I found the forums interesting, clearly they are not worth the time invested.
I have never published anything offensive on the forums there, and in fact a lot of people had sent me emails and posted comments commending me for insightful and sensible posts. These were dealing with matters like preventing abuse, protecting women online, and countering persons who are predators (I speak from experience). I have a background as a suicide and depression counselor and was using some of that background to help people on these forums who were having issues like that.
But yesterday I got banned for life because some heavy handed web-nazi moderator took a dislike to me. Clearly there are a lot of problems with the POF web site. No warning and reason given other then saying I offended a Mod.
If this is your idea of a worthy website Markus, then clearly you are very immature in your views. Your mod had a name “JustAChildLikeMe” — which speaks volumes as to their mentality as well.
The true nature of my being banned appears to be completely vindictive by the Mods on that site . They also axe threads for no reaason at all, just because they feel like it. Clearly they need to screen their moderators better. Some of them behave more like narcassistic psychotics then mods (I speak as a former administrator for several large telecom web sites and forums).
As to there being a lot of single women with kids on the site — I don’t see that being a problem, but yes I have to concur that there seems to be a lot of that. The increase in fake profiles on their that appear to be 19 year old posers or hookers seemed to be more of an issue. I reported a profile that used pictures from GQ of a woman, and nothing was done. Makes me wonder who is behind those fake profiles (probably the mods or admins IMHO — but that is just an educated guess).
Sorry Markus but I will have nothing but bad to say about your site from here on in unless my ban is amended, and an apology issued. Word of mouth on the net has more power then you seem to realize, and I would say soon you will have nothing left but a few minnows. Too bad really cause your site had a lot of potential.
After my experiences on PlentyofFish I have to agree with the majority of posters on here.
Originally I went to the site because a few friends recommended it. Now they too seem to have developed negative opinions of PlentyofFish. While I found the forums interesting, clearly they are not worth the time invested.
I have never published anything offensive on the forums there, and in fact a lot of people had sent me emails and posted comments commending me for insightful and sensible posts. These were dealing with matters like preventing abuse, protecting women online, and countering persons who are predators (I speak from experience). I have a background as a suicide and depression counselor and was using some of that background to help people on these forums who were having issues like that.
But yesterday I got banned for life because some heavy handed web-nazi moderator took a dislike to me. Clearly there are a lot of problems with the POF web site. No warning and reason given other then saying I offended a Mod.
If this is your idea of a worthy website Markus, then clearly you are very immature in your views. Your mod had a name “JustAChildLikeMe” — which speaks volumes as to their mentality as well.
The true nature of my being banned appears to be completely vindictive by the Mods on that site . They also axe threads for no reaason at all, just because they feel like it. Clearly they need to screen their moderators better. Some of them behave more like narcassistic psychotics then mods (I speak as a former administrator for several large telecom web sites and forums).
As to there being a lot of single women with kids on the site — I don’t see that being a problem, but yes I have to concur that there seems to be a lot of that. The increase in fake profiles on their that appear to be 19 year old posers or hookers seemed to be more of an issue. I reported a profile that used pictures from GQ of a woman, and nothing was done. Makes me wonder who is behind those fake profiles (probably the mods or admins IMHO — but that is just an educated guess).
Sorry Markus but I will have nothing but bad to say about your site from here on in unless my ban is amended, and an apology issued. Word of mouth on the net has more power then you seem to realize, and I would say soon you will have nothing left but a few minnows. Too bad really cause your site had a lot of potential.
Nice site? very good site? Is that marcus posting those? The site sucks big time, I’m sick of my profile being deleted 10 minutes later for absolutely no reason. I will never recommend this site to anyone and the advertisers should get a refund
I have to agree as well. My complaint is on the profile side of things mostly. I had images that got deleted….they were not nude…and they were nothing worse than many of the women do. Yet the women images stand while mine got deleted repeatedly. When I eventually asked on the forums if anyone else had experienced this the post was deleted in about 10 minutes.
Yes, very heavy handed and uneven enforcement of the rules.
STOP TALKING ABOUT FORUMS…LETS TALK DATING. POF is absolute garbage, its as bad if not worse as the other free site Okcupid.com. Full of freaks, timewasters, people just looking for an ego boost, most of the women have no intention of ever meeting you. I was on the site for 3 weeks and I only managed to get 2 women on my favorites, and only received mail from 3 women in total. They were all a waste of space, one was a manic depressive, one only put me on favorites because she thought i was good looking even though she was 5 inches taller than me and lived 120 miles away. Its a waste of time and very lower class, the types of people who hate blacks and coloured people. its good for women because they get 1000s of mail, but bad for guys because guys have to do the hunting. I sent out 150 emails during that time and got about 6 replies. Oh yes I was about to delete my profile because the site was s*** but hey….admin deleted it instead and saved me the effort! By the way i was on OKcupid.com too for 3 months and didnt manage to find one single woman who was willing to meet me. All these free sites are s*** and the paid sites are s*** too because you only get 30-40 people at any one time on those sites who are paid up members so you still wont get a reply from anyone! I think the whole internet dating thing doesnt work. I read a statistic on a site that 96% of people dont find a successful partner on dating sites, you only have to look at how these sites operate to find out why it doesnt work.
This is actually an excellent site in many ways! The forums are good fun and a great idea – but they are the root of most of the “problems”!
The biggest problem – that’s been mentioned by others – are the “snitches”!
There are plenty of them – and the downright ass-kissing that they do is pathetic in the extreme!
One of the worst is OpheliaBonMot “The Profile Review Queen” as she has come to be known. I know for a fact (an ex-moderator spilt the beans on this one!) that this woman watches everybody on the forums very closely and reports other posters on a daily basis for “stepping out of line”!
If she spots any rule breaking whatsoever…or maybe that should be stuff she personally does’nt like – posts get deleted, posters get suspended or BANNED for ridiculous lengths of time!
This is laughably the same “polite” woman who personally introduces herself to everyone on the “Introductions” forum – then watches them like a hawk!!
Bucsgirl (a truely loathsome woman!) does it as well!
There are many others. These snitches are basically allowed to do or write anything they want in return for snitching on others!
Mr BigFish is probably genuinely unaware of most of this – can you really blame him – he’s to busy making money! However I believe he does have a basic moral responsibility to investigate this.
Some of the moderators DO abuse their so-called power.
I make no apologies for naming two;
“Late” is a moron who has’nt got the intelligence (or the patience) to recognise and differentiate between good solid proper debate and aggression – quite simply if he does’nt like what he reads (or more likely if he’s “prompted” by a “complaining” sexy blonde with huge breasts) he will delete everything in sight! Whole threads if need be!
This is a so called fair moderator who’s not adverse to threatening members – through private e-mail – with suspension or possible deletion of their profiles! He is well known for it – but if you challenge him just as aggressively on his decisions – on many occasions you will have your lengthy suspension mysteriously lifted within hours of it being handed out!
Funny that is’nt it !
“Pandy” is the most power corrupt of them all !
The woman is a complete sycophant – who is so far up Marcus F’s ass it’s downright sad!
She is everthing her good pal “Late” is – but a lot worse!
“Pandy” is well known for following certain people about the forums just waiting to ban them!
This woman is highly patronising and condescending. She has a real tough time intepreting certain debates and arguments on many threads – hence many posts and sometimes whole threads get deleted!
This stupid, stupid woman would’nt understand rhetoric if it hit her square on her nose!
Until recently her main profile pic was of her pointing a handgun directly at the camera – meanwhile bragging about how she “would’nt be frightened to use it”
Tasteless, no class – and has no place on a dating site…..and that’s just the handgun!
As for the so-called Moderator……………..
BigFish will continue making pots of money, and for as long as some of the stupid unpaid moderators continue to be allowed behave any way they want “prompted” regularly by the low-life snitches – he wont have to work too hard to make it!!
Most facist and RACIST web site on this planet!
Forget about several federal laws, human rights or other: If markus Frind do not like it, it’s deleted.
A sterile site runned by a bigot who make several thousands on the back of people and do not even have the strenght of his own (pretended) morality..if there money to be made with.
I have been on PlentyOfFish for about a month and have had mostly positive experiences. I have corresponded with a number of interesting women and have arranged several face-to-face meetings. Recently I have started posting on the forums and have not seen the issues described above so far.
Just wait uintil you disagree with one of the Moronators or their pals.
Markus is a fraud he deleted me for no reason, he is the worst person hiding behind his computer in his apartment in vancouver running a terrible site and he is making money from these people dont ever go on his site he is a big liar and fraud. This guys is making money playing that he is a one man show. He deserves to get beat up talking alot of trash on his stupid blogs.
Listen it’s simple.
Frind has no personal or emotional attachment to any “profiles” on his site – because they’re not paying him any money!
That includes the moderators – who like all other profiles – are registered not subscribed, and yet they basically run his site for him and yet he does’nt pay them one dime!
“The Great One”, as he has been unbelievably described by Pandy and others on various threads, must be laughing his head off as he laughs all the way to the bank!
It really makes you wonder what this techno-computer whizz kid’s secret is!
On top of obvious superb business acumen – he’s got “voluteers” working for free! Maybe he’s the new Billy Graham – and like Graham, it’s highly unlikely he’s a bigot or a rascist!
Frind is a businessman/programmer who cant afford to get close to any of the “Profiles” (including the moderators) on his site.
With no financial ties to any profiles, he can delete profiles as he pleases.
He does’nt personally have to have any moral ethical principles when it comes to this. But as I said in my last post, he does have a moral obligation to keep a far closer eye on some of his moderators and their behaviour!
Markus , or whomever else decides to run a free dating website, including the “ezdate123.com” website. Please allow multiple profiles or else allow a setting where we can be found in searches made in different areas of the world. I travel around the world and would like to be found in searches in the locations that I travel. The only way I was able to solve my problem was to create multiple profiles, which were all legitimately myself. NOT FAKE! They were all deleted at the same time without warning. I also put a link to my MySpace so that I could share better pictures and more information with those that might be interested since those features aren’t available on POF. I also put “POF” info on the MySpace site to generate more traffic on POF. It goes both ways! The more the merrier! Censorship, banning, greed, etc. They’re all ugly names and shouldn’t happen. If someone is abusing the site, we should be able to block them and their comments ourselves with one mouse click.
I should not continue to see faces that I would never consider scrolling at the top of the page as I click on each link. I should be able to click “Never show me this person’s face again as long as I am a member of this site” and it should be so there after.
For the guy who owns ezdate123.com… the pictures are waaaay too small. Chemicals people!!! We have to see what they look like easily. A slide show of people I’d truly like to see would be great!
Common, listen to the suggestions and forget about the critics. Make the sites better and we will continue to click on them.
I never had any real issues with the forums, and in fact got into a controversial subject in there about how the site was run (more on that later) without being banned, so maybe I just got lucky. Anyways, this is going to focus more on the dating aspect of the site rather than the forums.
On first impressions, this is a very nice site. Easy layout, good search features, and more make this a very attractive alternative to the pay dating sites. Unfortunately, once you dig a little deeper you’ll discover that this might not be the answers to your dating prayers.
First off, the girls on that site have no taste whatsoever. You’ll read a profile about a girl who you believe you have a fair bit in common with, send her a message… and never hear back from her. One of the drawbacks of free is that there really isn’t any reason to test the waters before diving in. On Lavalife, you would send someone a smile and (in theory) if they wanted to talk to you they would smile back, and one party would use their credits to contact the other. On POF, you would skip that step and just message the person. On too many occasions would I message someone I believe there could be something there with and never hear back from them.
One interesting feature is that it shows people close to you who have checked their email recently. Unfortunately, most times these girls were located on the opposite ends of my metro area, and many times in neighboring metro areas and cities. Even more frustrating is once you find yourself looking at someone in another city, you’ll continue to see dozens of girls in that city. I live in a suburb of nearly 200,000 people, but 90% my preview thingie would be showing me people from cities with less than 75,000 people that are a good 25-50 miles away. Maybe my town just ain’t popular with POF???
Another feature I do not like is that you can set your mail to block messages from people who message others for intimate encounters. While on the surface that seems like a great way to block pervs, as someone who is not one I may want to meet someone for something casually – sort of a “break” on my quest for romance. But because of this, I cannot use this site to its fullest potential because I do not wish to cut my options short. Even worse, at one point the mods were adding people to the ‘perv list’ who may not have contacted someone looking for an encounter, including myself. After many months of complaints, I do believe they revised their position on this as I was later able to message people who wished not to be contacted by those who had messaged others for an encounter.
Maybe this site just wasn’t for my demographic. As a male in his early 20s, maybe the majority of girls in my category could not take the site seriously, especially being free. Also by not owning a car, always matching me with girls far away was more of a handicap than it should have been. But after spending a year on that site, the few girls I ended up officially declaring “girlfriends” were just horrible at best. Even though it cost me, I had much better luck on Lavalife.
I’m giving the site 2/5. It tries to do things right, but with mixed results. But if you are young like myself, I would look elsewhere for your online dating needs.
I was banned for no reason. Absolutely NO reason. The only possible would be that I allowed a friend to use my computer to post his ad. Would this count as dulpicate ads? He was obviously different from mine! Oh well. I thought it was personal, until I seen all around on the internet that it is not jsut me. It’s a large number of people who seem to have been randomly selected to be banned!! I do not see the purpose, but will look elsewhere if this is the way it is going to be.
i have said it before and i will say it again, someone is spamming this site with positive comments,
it is so apparent when you see 5 or six short messages in a row, all from different handles, all saying nice site or some other simple comment,
the key is that they never say why it is such a nice site, yet the page here is full of well thought out commentary that says the site has PROBLEMS PROBLEMS PROBLEMS
it is not a surprise to me to see people sucking up to power, it is just more evidence of the truth of the matter being made obvious
if POF was so fairly run, why do so many folks from POF feel the need to suck up by spitting out these meaningless little comments,
And as for those people who think these comments carry some weight in a debate such as this, OK, whatever, keep showing us how great things are, god knows we are all trying tell you how great you are not
intelligent people take complaints seriously, funny how being smart does not always make you smart
Note from editor: I am in the process of removing these comments. I don’t think they have anything to do with POF, they are just comment spam.
POF is making money by selling ads to dating paysites.
The dating sites that give POF money do so because people get disapointed by POF and go to their paysites.
The owner of POF himself probably doesn’t realise that he is making money on his incompetance to build a functional datingsite. It became very popular because it’s free and the name is easy to pass and remember. He’s probably not even aware of what fishing is all about.
If he decide to hire competent people to improve the site (will probably happen) he’ll start making less money by the fact that paysites will slow down their advertising on POF for obvious reasons.
When you go in the forums, moderators (half of them) are the first turn-off.. they are really not moderated in what they do.
Very badly selected moderators. Some of them do/say things we never thought a dating site moderator could.
Having your post or thread deleted is an insult but some “moderators” seems to take it as a compliment to themself and really enjoy deleting.
The first time I went in the forums and saw the rule list I told myself they probably use it as a back-up when they have to deal with real abusers.. After a while I had no choice to conclude they use it as a back-up to their own abuse of “power”. Anything you do can be wrong. You make a joke = you are promoting yourself = Delete. Live-and-let-live is far from beeing in their values.. At one point or another we feel the need to find why mods on this dating site are so bad. Some American and British think it’s discrimination from a Canadian website. Hey Canadians on this site are treated just as you are. I am Canadian and I do admit the way this site is moderated is a shame on the country but keep in mind that the bad moderators are all British!!… Joking.. lol ;o)
I feel kind of sorry for the good moderators on POF,
Yes there is good mods on this site but the bad ones always take more attentions..
The only major improvement POF can do with minimum monetary incomes cuts is on the forum moderators. Actually, the moderators are “chosen” by someone who’s looking at his feet while walking. One way or another he will fall in a big deep hole..
In my 800k population town (Ottawa Canada) there is 2.7 males for every female and the numbers seems to be like this worldwide.
There is many great people in the forums and this is a place where we can have good time exchanging funny tought like no where else.
Wish I could find a forum like this with mods that focus on asses instead of deleting everything suspicious.
Bottom Line:
Girls will have to kiss about 4-8 guys before finding the right one.. and being in 50 guy’s favorite list isn’t bad for the ego.
Guys have way more chance to meet a lovely one while buying CDRs at Walmart. no jokes
Hey pof mods, don’t try to make me believe that I’m a nasty bastar. It can’t work.
I’m out, my pof experiance is past and I’ll never tell anyone that I’ve been on POF.
Most people and the good Mods on this site have my admiration and respect but the weight of having do deal with……
I’m in the same boat as a lot of people here, I had a profile on the site that I used on and off pretty much ever since the site opened. I had hundreds of emails over the years from readers saying it was one of the best profiles they had read…absolutely nothing wrong with my profile whatsoever. The other day I went to login…and my profile has been removed without any reason at all, etc.
Pissing off the hand that feeds you, doesn’t really make a lot of sense to me.
It motivates me that much more, as we’ve been in the developmental stages for the past year of a user-friendly dating site, that will blow POF’s functionality out of the water.
I don’t have any problem with the site itself. A lot of good features. But as a single woman, no kids, I’ve gotten some very odd responses. I’ve tried putting my profile up 2x but the ratio of weird dudes (overly sexual, suggestive responses to a LTR profile with no suggestive photos, mentally ill men) made me give up on the site. Reading through the forums, there are some bizarre lines of thought out there. Some posters say that women shouldn’t bring cell/mobile phones on dates with them. Note: we’re not talking about talking on cell/mobile phones during a date, which would be extremely rude, but rather, having them on a date at all, even if they’re shut off or set to vibrate or silent. Some of them also think any woman who doesn’t answer every single e-mail (even the suggestive, mentally ill ones) is an ungrateful b**ch). And any woman who would comment against them is a feminazi. Personally, I didn’t find it to be a particularly friendly enviornment for women, but that’s not the fault of the admins or anyone else, rather the members.
I was on POF for two years, and I found it the most frustrating experience ever.
Its like a playground, where the ADMIN are bullies. I find it funny that they delete pictures of guys with their cars, or on horses, but its okay for a chick to put up their pics of their boobs, or guys of their abs.
And I don’t appreciate ADMIN reading private emails through the email system on there.
And its so funny how when you mention MY Space in a private email – that their system automatically puts in SPAM SITE. Funny – the email I signed up with on My space – not one spam was sent to that email – but the email I use for POF only – I am clearing garbage out of my inbox everyday.
The only reason this site is still going, is because its free, and because its easy to lie on it. But I can see it crashing after about 2 years unless Admin grows up.
I was also banned from Plenty Of Fish.
I was not spamming anyone.
I was not rude.
My profile was real.
My correspondence with finding the right person is between me and them.
My first week was fun and very exciting. Sometimes I would send the same serious question I would ask any female on any dating site but then I found those emails I sent them were deleted.
I would just ask simple things like:
What are your hobbies?
Do you like asian foods?
I had like anywhere 5 to 15 questions depending on the person.
Well those questions were viewed as spam and I was banned.
Then I emailed the mod and then my account was deleted with no fair judgement.
I really think the mod on plenty of fish are emotional wet bags people who were never treated fairly in high school so they get their revenge later in life such as this.
So yes the mods and admins on POF are bullies and I do not think the bullies on there (both men and women) will ever get married.
The worst thing the mods at POF have really done was looking at who I was choosing to date as if they were being a critic if I was picking too many white girls or black girls or asian girls.
Ummm EXCUSE ME THAT IS MY PERSONAL CHOICE NOT YOURS!
Then I got a nasty email that my emails that were sent were deleted because
my chosen were not from various background.
IT IS NOT the mods role to play with who I think my match is and deleting my emails.
Ehhh who cares. If mods treat POF as their own private hookem up service/email critic website then I hope they get treated just as harsh in the real world.
Only one world sums up these types of mods. PURE SCUM
I left this following entry in my profile– and was kicked-off of POF an hour later (I think it was well written)..
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“Just adding my two cents here– because it seems that [Anything and EVERYTHING in the FORUMS is erased two minutes after it’s posted! Violating all the little “rules & regulations” seems to be very easy to do; Maybe it’s TOO EASY TO DO! It seems that the Forums are run and moderated by EXTREMELY socially inept forum-NAZIS. They’re usually angry Adult NERDS who are angry at the world and have very little control over their own EMPTY lives, so now they have to create their own rigid little police-state and control anyone who attempts to enter it.. IT’S A PRETTY SAD THING TO WITNESS. Most of these people were probably nerds in high-school as well– and couldn’t find a date on Friday night or get LAID! So now they have to control, delete, censor, and block anyone who challenges their petty “Authority”. They can’t debate these things openly and publicly because they’re AFRAID to be challenged and exposed publicly for being wrong, or for what they truly are– COWARDS!!
It’s interesting to note that most despots and Right-Wing Authoritarians are the most repressed and nerdy lot of the bunch! LOL!– But don’t get me wrong, I actually LIKE Plentyoffish VERY MUCH!– and I love searching the different profiles from all over the world! There’s ALOT of HOT women on here (quite a few fake profiles though)… But the forums should only be used for certain things like event announcements, local social gatherings, and PARTIES– THAT’S IT! Don’t give these pathetic, socially crippled Adult NERDS a haven to project their adolescent hostilities onto the world!! Don’t worry, I won’t be visiting the Forums again, but I just wanted to share my experience with others. Thank-You..”
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I was on Plentyoffish this time around for exactly 5 days before being kicked-off…
Since some of the POF admins occasionally visit this forum, I’d simply like to add: SHOVE YOUR PETTY FUCKING “RULES” SIDEWAYS YOU FUCKING LITTLE PIECES OF NERD SHIT!!!
If you want to see the definition of “Adult-Children”, look no further than Markus Frind and his wee, little nerd minions… They’re frightened little nerd children that everyone pelted with stones at recess time. But most of us grow-up and move on.. Their mindset is still stuck in the playground.
WHY EVEN HAVE THE FORUMS AT ALL IF THEY MAKE EVERYONE UNHAPPY?! The simple solution is to GET RID OF IT! End of Story.
Just stick to the regular dating site…
Markus, I have seen several profiles that interest me but your software won’t let me log on after the first few successful log ons. I’ve done everything to my browser that you’ve suggested–but failed.
Can you help me? Please?! I really would like to contact some of these women…
harvey
Hi,i am Janet by name and i am 27 years old i am looking for the right man to spend the rest of my life with him in one happy home and one family,this is my Email address ja_net_love@yahoo.com you can reach me through there.i will be waiting to read from you sooner.
Janet
Hello!!! My name Liza. I the cheerful, sociable girl. To me of 27 years. I want to find second half. For me it is very necessary the man with which I would like to be a line. I hope, that in the world there is such person who wants to get acquainted with the girl for creation of family. I shall wait for your letters. The address of my e-mail senavtika@yahoo.com I shall wait for your letter. Write. Yours Liza.
Hey did you guys know this existed? http://www.plentyoftorrents.com its a torrent search site I assume for looking for plenty of torrents and it sounds a lot like his. lol I wonder if these people will get sued? I also saw one called http://www.plentyoffish.me.uk
it’s a great site , i just signed up to look for a friend , i lost her number . started meeting lady’s . i think i’ll say on it for a while . the reason i first strated writin’ here is that i can’t seem to find anywhere on the site a link to contact them . i’m having problems with my in box deleting certen messages . if anyone can shed some light on this e-mail me plz thanks . my handle is night life .
I have been on Plenty of Fish for about a year and have had met some great guys.. just not the right one yet! I’ve also made a few good female friends, and we’ve had a lot of fun together. I really enjoy the forums and reading and commenting on what people have to say about different issues. Finally, the site is what you make of it – remember, it’s a completely free site so don’t judge too harshly.
I came across the “How do you become a volunteer Moderator” post
How to be a POF Volunteer Moderator
Apparently, they do acknowledge their guilt by making fun of the people who they unjustly banned from the site, they even site how they are bad-mouthed on other sites such as this.
I think they are just a big highschool clique who are ban happy.
I think “Late” is just an unkempt, ungroomed hermit living in the mountains living on welfare while flies fly, lice and bugs live in his beard.
Nice site? very good site? Is that marcus posting those? The site sucks big time, I’m sick of my profile being deleted 10 minutes later forABSOLUTELY NO REASON. I will never recommend this site to anyone and the advertisers should get a refund.
I JUST MOVED SO I HAVE A NEW IP ADDRESS AND IM BANNED RIGHT AWAY??FUCK YOU AND FIX YOUR FUCKING SITE YOU FUCKING FUCKER
Pillsbury said:
I came across the “How do you become a volunteer Moderator” post
How to be a POF Volunteer Moderator
Apparently, they do acknowledge their guilt by making fun of the people who they unjustly banned from the site, they even site how they are bad-mouthed on other sites such as this.
I think they are just a big highschool clique who are ban happy.
I think “Late” is just an unkempt, ungroomed hermit living in the mountains living on welfare while flies fly, lice and bugs live in his beard.
Thanks for the link Pilsbury. The link makes it painfully obvious that POF moronators take a perverse pleasure lording over members.
In the real world they would be paid real money for their time,but then they couldn’t push folks around without repercussions.They’re just a bunch of no-class bullies.
If you want an example of putrifying platitudes check out what they say about each other in the testimonial section? Take a gander at the trademarked moron “late”’s testimonials.If he’s such a great father(according to various testimonials) then why is he abandoning his kid in Ottawa and moving to mooch off relatives in Alberta?
“madfiddler” seems to be abnormally excited about the prospect of doing things together with “late”.I do hope these 2 drama queens do indeed become bum buddies,it would be a real POF success story.The rest of the moronators testimonials are just as funny ,same people saying the same things stroking each other’s egos ad nauseum.What a lame group of nobodies.
I’ve been on POF for almost 4 years. Since I’ve noticed recently a rash of posts & threads deleted, I’ve come a bit suspicious. Because in all my time i’ve been their only made 4 posts. Last one deleted by the mods. Been doing some research & do see some a bit of truth in some of the statements made about about POF. Even funnier I too also noticed so many short posts here “Thank you great site etc.” are a vain attempt ( probably from on POF no doubt ) to try counter all the negative response about POF. And basically worded exactly the same. If the comments were so great they would spend a lot more time writing more then one sentence. I believe it is at the most just a few people doing this & don’t have the time to write a long glowing review.
09/26/2007
Im a Canadian and I got banned myself from the forums for a post whereas I empathized with a fellow forums contributor.
It reads as such:
The thread was entitled: There is no freedom of speech in these forums. Posted: September 25, 2007 11:13:31 AM
I hear ya Josey. You start a thread, it passes the 7 initial delete process, but you then get attacked personally, so the thread direction is broken hence….your thread gets deleted because it gets off topic. Its done deliberitely to styphil you. Frustrating to no end. Instead of people who manipulate the forum rules to their benefit getting ousted … they are aloud to continue on there merry way with no consequence. I find that some of the forum users caliber to not have the maturity, the ability to challenge or debate with a thoughtful opinion and instead of giving you a run for your money….they head for character assissination. What can I say….not my website…I have no influence over the situation, as it appears, than you.
Hang tough…you’re not alone. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yep…that is what I said that got me banned.
With banning people because of their view, i question what Markus Frind, CEO of Plenty Of Fish is afraid of. When you opress people because of their views only insights people to get angry; leaving a foul taste on the whole experience. This is Canada…not some third rate country. You have belittled and trashed a Canadian Fundamental Right that has been established since the 1700’s; a right and privilege you enjoy….but don’t impart within your forum structure on POF.
Your rules state under General:
c) Do not post Messages that violate Federal, State/Provincial, Local Laws which include, but are not limitd to, anything that violates a Copyright, Trademark, Patent, Trade Secret, or is bound by NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement)
Markus views that since this is his website, privately owned Canadian Website, and uses retoric that extends his courtesy to use providing you abide by the rules; much like your own home when you are entertaining guests. Either abide by them, or you are asked to leave…no difference.
Well, i contend…its a website forum…not his home. The conversations are opinions exchanged between people AND are exchanged in our own home, not Markus’s home. It is facilitated by a database…not his front room. Since it is his website, he figures he can control what people say. How sad that is, he must be so frightened. Can you imagine being in Markus’s home, microphones everywhere and if you say something he doesnt like…he boots you out the door. . . but he allows his so called guests to speak violently and trash/bash each other. Thats aloud on Markus’s forums. It runs rampant…the nasty comments and immature treatment people have, the manipulation of the rules to suit…favoritism… Opression personified by none other than a Canadian…im ashamed for him.
The people you are booting also contribute to your site. Without the numbers your site has, you’d have nothing. You’re not providing this website out of the goodness of your heart. Because the profilers don’t pay…you have structured it such that advertisers pay…brilliant and cudoes to you but keep biting the hands that really do feed you, and thats the people who use your site.
You seem to be having your cake and eating it too… The ol..’Do as I say, not as I do’ policy. Someone will challenge your so called…no democracy or freedom of speech in your forums. I am under the impression he doesnt pay his meager amount of moderators to police the forums. They could care less how one forum contributor treats another but my oh my if you should have a viewpoint that is contrary to his arbitrary forum rules. Its garbage folks…pure garbage. If you can’t do it right Markus….don’t do it at all…your forums are a joke. The whole forums data base should be scrapped.
To protest, i say…NEVER click on an advertisement on Plenty Of Fish…NEVER. That is how he is paid.
C Lee:
The day’s coming when POF will be generating enough funds to make it worthwhile for a lawyer to launch a class action lawsuit against POF for violating the Charter of Rights rights of it’s members.
To be fair, whoever posted that was way out of line, there are better ways to voice a complaint. But I don’t really doubt what you said. I’m sure there will always be people who will try to manipulate the system to try to get posts removed. Not just on a forum, but anywhere. I did see that post & don’t believe you should be banned for speaking what you believed was the truth.
I notice a lot of men who are ” surprised” that there are a lot of single Moms on the site. If you are in the age group, 30s to 40s what exactly do you expect?? Most women who are finding themselves single again USUALLY have had kids.. I have noticed so many men, who are in their 40s, looking for women in their 20s.. Get a grip guys.. I had nothing but bad experiences on POF.. Lots of married men looking for sex, or old men looking for young girls.. All in all, I do not hold much faith in internet dating. Its just unnatural.. Physical attraction always comes first. Pictures can be very decieving. As for the moderators, YES they read emails and YES they ban you at will.. I have a feeling that every New profile created makes Marcus more money.. The Mods are a bunch of losers with no power in real life… the forums are filled with a bunch of trashy people and regulars.. If you want to meet someone, get away from your computer, get outside and meet real people..
Good Luck.. from a MOM who learned her lesson.
I love how people make a suggestion in regards to ‘better ways to doing things’ like how to lodge a complaint but don’t have a suggestion themselves as to what I SHOULD have appropriately done in his/her eyes…
“Just A Concerned Guy”. I also find it interesting that you agree with me yet…im way out of line in my methods. I didn’t stalk anyone to get my point across. I didnt send hate mail. I didnt make a false statement. I viewed my opinion in an open forum without prejudice. ‘Just my thoughts and the facts mam.’
Im just a regular Canuck who doesnt have the means to start litigation against this person. So….again….suggestions as to what I SHOULD have done?” Im all ears and eyes.
This a PERFECT way to vent…its out there for ALL to read…not unlike yourself with your posting.
High Five *slap* to FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!!!!!!!!!!
C. Lee, you were not the one I was talking about as far as being way out of line. I am talking about the author of the original thread you were posting in. Its like me going to your house as a guest & when I don’t respect your rules, get kicked out screaming freedom of speech. It will just get you kicked off right away. I have been doing a lot of research on the site about bans, rules, deleting of posts & found some surprising results, but still collecting more data. And not everything is QUITE like it seems on POF. I’m a realist. If your wrong your wrong. if your right your right. On the most part there are legitimate reasons why it is done as far as bans, deletions ect. But not always. The way POF go’s about doing it is wrong, that far I know. Because for me I need real proof. But I do have my suspicions about the way they go about implementing their administration of the site.
I think u are all full of crap!!!!!!
Well Sarah. You must be one of the mods. Yayawhatever is known for screwing over people she doesn’t like. And Markus could give a f*ck what she does even though I know of a number of people who have complained about her tactics. For you POFers, don’t bother contacting Admin, the mods have access to that box. Write Bigfish instead.
BTW Markus has a self-promoting thread “POF to the rescue”? where he admits that he can AND DOES read private emails. So watch what you say in PMs
Wow, reading this thread was better than using POF… so much hate… and clearly justified.
gage4fun, that was justified as he was contacted by police & they used the information to catch a killer so to speak.
the site was ok in the beginning. then my account was deleted for no reason. 3 days later my friend lisa her profile was deleted. the site is junk and thats that. if its too good to be true, it is. i dont recommend the site. its low budget
I was a long time subscriber to PoF, and found it a totally useless site on which to meet someone, but entertaining in its own ways. I did get numerous emails from gals (I’m a guy), and while some were worth a reply, many were from women who clearly either didn’t read my profile or chose to ignore things like … NO KIDS, or no smoking, or no long distance relationships.
Part of the novelty came, for me, from seeing how I could edit my profile into what I thought were progressively more outrageous statements, designed to elicit a, hopefully, thoughtful response from someone who’d read them. Not talking explicit sexual suggestions or anything, just things that wouldn’t cause me to reply to a profile. Didn’t matter. Steamrolled over time and again by gals who didn’t read, or didn’t care.
Yes, the IM system Markus employs is garbage, it always has been, and he’s well aware of it. I turned it off completely as it was, and to my best knowledge, remains, useless for the majority of people.
Ah, the forums. I didn’t bother much with them my first few years on PoF, but when I realized the rest of the site was a waste of my time, I started reading them, then posting. Far more active, interesting, entertaining community I found there. Ended up making several online friends with whom I remain in contact, although not on PoF … we’ve all been banned.
The first time I was “banned” was for a supposedly off-topic post in a recipe and cooking forum. Not off-colour, understand, merely, according to the forum moderator, off-topic. Things rapidly regressed from there, as everyone with whom I corresponded in the forums, principally about recipes and cooking, were finding themselves banned repeatedly for protracted periods, or their accounts deleted outright.
Ultimately, with a parting email shot to the forum moderator who banned me, and an email directly to Markus detailing exactly why I was doing so and inviting a direct response, I deleted my profile from PoF. I could have saved the time … apparently, not only did they also delete me, but every post I ever made in the forums was deleted as well. All those great recipes and cooking tips I shared, gone for any who follow after.
Apparently, it’s okay to email every woman on the site soliciting sex, but heaven forfend you post in a recipe and cooking topic, as did another friend, a professional chef who was banned for it, about self-rising flour.
I didn’t read every post here, but I suspect the majority are of similar tone. I did read the one reply from Markus that I saw, and can state that it’s pure, unadulterated crap in my experience.
Plenty of Fish is, in my opinion, a waste of time and bandwidth, worth every penny it costs you to join, and not one penny more. Posting in the forums is an invitation to a bum’s rush out the door by the forum moderators, posting a profile is an invitation to sexual harassment if you’re a woman, and maybe if you’re a man too, but certainly no romance resulted from my time on the site.
Save your time, save yourself the trouble and abuse, and find somewhere … anywhere … else to make a conncection.
i am totally glad there is a place where i can vent about plenty of fucktards…i have my own personal axe to grind with a few of the mods on that shyte site…
i am currently working on my second permanent ban…second you ask?…yes…i guess my first permanent ban was kinda not so permanent…obviously the mod that banned me the first time was/is a gung ho rookie mod by the name of JustaChildLikeMe…(or justachildishmoron as i affectionately refer to the little darling)…
i have to admit that i am a bit of a prankster..class clown type of guy…one of my first 3day suspensions came as a result of posting in a thread about coffee and how it gives people the jitters etc…to illustrate my point i typed something to this effect…ii ccaanntt ddrriinnkk ttoooo mmuucchh ccooffffeeee oorr eellssee ii ggeett ssoo eeddggyy ii ccaanntt ttyyppee pprrooppeerrllyy..
for that i got a three day ban…one of my other bans came about as a bit of harmless tom foolery that i used to pull in another site i was on…i did it strictly for the purpose of aggravating other…iusedtotypecompleteparagraphsetcsayingthatmyspacebarsometimesstuckandicouldnotuseitsopleasebearwithmeuntiligetitfixed…my god…you’d think i committed the original sin on pof…
i have several bones of contention with markus…the first…and it is a biggie…almost tantamount to false advertising…
after i got my 2nd permaban i googled free chat sites…lo and behold…heres one that i see…
100% Free Chat
chat
Meet millions of Sexy Men Now!
http://www.plentyoffish.com
thats a copy/paste…do we see the words chat there?…that leads one to believe they can and do allow chatting…it doesnt specify you can only chat via the instant messaging system…which is hit or miss most of the time…why is it tho that when you try to do what you think you are able to do…i.e chat in the forums…you get booted?…kinda makes me go hmmm…
but such is markus little fantasy land…
the first time i tried to contact him via pof mail i almost wet myself laughing…he appropriately names himself…”the Creator”…in his profile…oh great…a freakin nazi with a messiah complex…go figure…
that is all i have to say for now…i am saving the best for last so stay tuned…yayawhatever is gonna get both barrels…with any amount of luck i can nail crappedonbaystreet in the same shot…
thank you to the originator(s) of this site for giving us the opportunity to express ourselves on how we feel about puke fish…
i’ll be back…mike…(oops…i used my name…something else i was mistakenly chided for once…my bad)
i’ve recently been banned again in the forums for…uhhhh…chatting…2nd offense, 5 days…first time for being off topic…i have never spoken to anyone negatively in any of the forums…i mistakenly believed that in a dating and FRIENDS site, we were allowed to offer up a bit of humor and lightheartedness in our attempt to meet new people…guess that is not the case…i have chosen not to delete my profile there, becuz i have made some very special, life-changing friends and wish not to chance losing contact with any of them…but one by one, i see people opting out of the “pond”…controlling power hungry people should NOT be considered as objective markus…do yourself a favor and de-throne them as quickly as possible or, before you know it, you will no longer be “almighty king and creator”, having been thrown over and stabbed in the back by these sharks…
Yaya gabored bans people for the stupidest crap .. I got banned in a recipe thread for merely laughing and having a good time …. the forums are a way to get to know someone , and see if you even want to email each other and have things in common and laughter and having a good time should be allowed but NO NO she does not allow this …
Your forum posting privilages have been revoked until 10/15/2007 4:26:11 AM Pacific Standard Time by yayawhatever
Your forum posting priviledges have been suspended for 3 days for chat.
Rules are specific when it comes to chat, you chose to ignore them, hence the consequences as outlined.
Read the following threads:
Posting Rules
Forum Rules Specific
Terms of Service/User Agreement.
Cooking With Balls
Posted: 10/8/2007 11:03:25 PM
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
These ridiculous people at POF, revoked my posting priviledges until 10/18/2007, because i replied to a user female called Aspiring Angel when she posted a question saying why should she not be able to have a boyfriend and other intimate activity boyfriends? I “Earl425″ replied and said your boyfriend should drop you. Because of this their Yayawhatever revokes my posting rights at POF. I have been on the net for 9 years and have never been banned or revoked from any site. The post i made at POF was pure debate and had no tasteless implications. I have also noticed the user Aspiring angel and her other female friend Libertine follow and harrass other users in the forums..Earl Guyton
what really gets me is that they tell you to contact the moderator that banned you if you have any questions concerning your ban…so far…the illiterate bitch yaya gabor has me blocked from emailing her…and 3 of the other bag licking mods are not even bothering to read my emails…
karma is gonna be a real bitch markus
Apparently, questioning the “final decision of the judges” is not allowed. They have a 96 page thread of snitched posts, in which you’re not allowed to debate the validity of a snitch. And I qoute:
Quote:
“Also, comment above about poster with the rolled-up newspaper, I have found him to be kind and providing support in the form of comic relief. I wish more people had a sense of humor on these forums.
~Note: It is not permitted to debate posts in the report thread. Those who do so will have their posting privileges suspended.~ YaYa ~”
Yada Yada … whatever … get a life. I think she gets bonuses for bans, thread and account deletes. Otherwise, she’s just McCarthyism personified (we won’t discuss what that makes Markus, but a Feeb-le directorship comes to mind). Takes a witch to conduct a witch hunt … they found the perfect … candidate for the job.
my latest comment…i mailed this to all the plenty of fucktard mods…except yakyak who has me blocked…
it would appear that you people have your wish…i assume all your henchmen are under a gag order not to talk to any “rebels” like myself…
i get it thrown in my face about all my past “infractions” on pof but never once have i been acknowledged for any good i have done…at several events i have attended…i witnessed a few practises that pof could have been held accountable for…e.g…designated drivers being advertised in the threads but such drivers were driving people while impaired…and/or charging money for rides…raffle tickets being sold to help defray costs incurred in staging events…
markus…ask your hosts who bailed out the thunder bay new years pot luck party last year when the health unit was called at the last minute…
ask your hosts who did the cooking for the valentines party last year…no i dont want remuneration for anything…all was done in the spirit of fair play and ensuring that people had memorable evenings…
obviously my first permanent ban by justachildlikeme was done in error as it was lifted by her…any of my postings in the recipe/cooking threads have remained pretty much on track…unless someone posted something blatantly dangerous about safe food handling or was obviously making up crap to impress people…yaya…you probably gave me a slap on the wrist for taking to task one obvious poser that said he popped stuff under a 1600 degree broiler at home…
duh…most ovens only go to 500 degrees…steel will liquify at a bit above 1600 degrees…
other postings by people have gone uncontested by moderators…safety issues…nothing gets done about that but i get slapped around by you people if i say something…
pof used to be a fun place…now its turning into a concentration camp run by heavy handed condescending know it alls…
yaya…never once have you given anyone a straight answer concerning rules and regs…you throw a few links to people and say…here…read…
markus…take some of your mega bucks and rewrite your TOS with the help of a GOOD lawyer…it is full of contradictions and “grey areas”…
yes i do see a need for policing a site such as pof but who polices your henchmen?…
it seems as if you people have a code amongst yourselves…not one of you have the balls to reply to me when i have tried to talk to you…and yaya…your blocking my emails is really really childish behaviour on your part…and dont cite harassment as a reason for blocking me either as i have not had the pleasure of harassing you…
you state the reason for my permaban as “protesting a suspension through the use of emails”…so much for the claim that you people do not read personal emails…
heres an example of how cloudy your TOS are…i googled free chat sites after i got permabanned the second time…gosh golly…i see POF right near the top of the list…the word chat is mentioned twice in your advert yet you ban people for chatting in the threads…if you mean chat through the use of the IM system here…state that clearly…and clean up the IM system…
i suspect this little rant of mine is going to fall on deaf ears due to your gag order markus…thats why i am copy/pasting it and sending it to all of your staff
yaya…a one month ban because i resurrected a thread you deleted…a good thread…one with over 40 pages of postings…it was one of the best threads in that forum but you trashed it…why?…no one knows…
good luck with your site markus…but i can see it rapidly becoming like the snake that ate its own tail
More hypocrisy from PoF:
4. The purpose of a forum is discussion, not chat. (okay, define the difference, and explain to me how you’re enforcing it, ’cause I don’t see “chat” being removed, per se … just “discussion” PoF doesn’t care for.
“This site is mostly moderated by the entire community, the community is deleting 70% of the threads that are deleted.
This site caters to the majority not the extreme minority that wishes to turn every thread into a chat thread.”
It said I have mail & when I cllicked on it, all I got was the profile & no email. No matter what I tried I couldn’t get my email. What do I need to do to get it ?
i have decided i am gonna delete my profile on that site…its not worth the aggravation…the antics of the moderators did however provide me with some much needed comic relief…
i still scratch my head when i look at the alleged figures of membership on puke fish and look at how many moderators there are….”millions” of users but only what…9 mods?…
no wonder they only target a few of us…
i am gonna take a few parting shots at my favorite moderators when i redo my profile comment…yapyap and panda will be figured prominently…JACLM…will go unnoticed…i dont like to waste my time on really stupid people…
does anyone know offhand which one of the moderators was emailing pix of his dick to unsuspecting women on that site?
Aspiring_Angel supposed female user in the forums is this yayawhatever. Here’s how notorious this issue is, i’ll explain. The Aspiring_Angel female supposed user is a male also,they hide (yaywhatever)behind that little scenerio. Now Libertine is a real female but is also a moderator that poses as a user,and she will always gang up on anyone this Aspiring_Angel has singled out in the POF forums, then they ban or revoke. Your answer is in what i just typed. If those two idiots were removed from POF,that might be a decent site. As far as the male person that sent those picture of the male genital to female users at POF, it would probably be the female impersonator Aspiring_Angel doing this. Looks like i exposed their little moderator game. Amazing how those of us educated in administrative and net technical can aquire by phone what we want to know. BTW,Godaddy is a beautiful net registration site that list phone numbers for these trashy do wrong little sites….Earl
Well, I decided to BLOG about Plenty Of Fish as well….good site for a DATING site, but the forums are just a waste of typing and handcramps, because the moderators will delete it anyways…so don’t waste your time posting.
ALSO…I made my OWN blog post about the site in more detail
Check it out here: My Plenty of Fish Diatribe!
if you look up your favorite pof moderators profile…there is a tab that says…”report moderator”…(why its there is not real clear cuz i doubt it does any good)…but perhaps if enough people reported mods…maybe our self proclaimed champion of justice might do something…lmfao…yeah right
Nothing ever gets done on this site. I was recently banned because Iwanted answers to a question that none of the “mods” could answer. I was banned until 2021!!! LOL! Ya, like this little prick isn’t power hungry! No wonder he’s still single! The mods can even modify your posts in the forums. Simply remove or change sentences. What?!?! lol
Here was my initial question in the forum…
Now I’m sure this thread will get deleted because one was just closed last week, but this is so very frustrating. When trying to email someone you receive the “Message Sent” display, but once you check your Sent messages folder, it is NOT there. Can someone please please fix this. I know it’s been said that there is nothing to fix, that everything is working fine, but it is not. I have absolutely NO filters setup and the person I tried to send a quick hello to, also has no filters setup. Not one. I did not receive any kind of error message. So, can someone finally address this? I am NOT the only one this is happening to…but time and again, we receive the same old answers…”FILTERS” or “Check your mail settings”. There is nothing wrong with my settings.
Think about this…you email someone for the first time, you receive the “Message Sent” confirmation. You check your sent messages folder and the message in not there. So no matter what the filters are or how someone’s profile is set up, the system is flawed.
It’s one thing if we received an error message stating that the message could not be sent because of certain reasons, but when we receive a confirmation saying that the message was sent but it has not, then yes, there is a problem with the email system.
Please someone address this before simply closing the thread.
Was banned after asking this again. This issue happens all the time to many people and it will never get fixed! They have way way too many filters setup. Mail doesn’t get through but somehow it’s our fault. And when you ask one of these guys to look into it, they ban you for asking the question. Nice guys!
max…thats there way of dealing with stuff they dont know the answer to…lol…obviously you were a problem…they removed you…there…no more problem…
try emailing one of the bitches that banned you and see what happens…two of the fat ugly sluts have me blocked and one is not even reading anything i send…
and markus…you worthless sack of shit…keep your bitches in line
FistnCuffs…I know what you mean. Markus, in his own profile says don’t talk to him if you’ve been banned in the forums, talk to the Mod who banned you. So I tried. He tells me to talk to Admin. Of course never got an answer there. Triedd emailing the mod back and guess what??? The little bitch blocked me. Yes you Ticketoride! This guy is too much! Closes threads without any resolution. Always on his fawkin high horse! Thinks he’s some kind of genious…but problems NEVER get resolved! In his book, it’s ALWAYS a problem with the end user. I guess that’s the only way he feels important because he’s sure not getting “any” from the site!
they are all a bunch of condescending, patronizing know it alls
Yup, you got that right! The worst is they cannot EVER give you a straight answer. When you ask for specifics, they delete your posts and if you ask again, the ban you…until 2021?!?! LMFAO! Guess someone is scared of people finding out the truth. Words are pretty powerful, and these idiots get scared that their little bit of power might be taken away from them if they cannot answer some basic questions. I mean, why else would they ban someone until 2021??? To shut them up! Get rid of the problem without having to actually deal with it. Very professional MArcus!
I really fail to see what your all going on about . It’s just a website with a few mods with grade 12 equivalency in education , You give them WAY ! to much credit . Why don’t you just do what half the population of forum regulars do on that site simply change your IP and make a new account.? it’s not hard to do.
I think the popularity of the site has finally dwindled it had it’s time in the light and is now mediocre in popularity. Look how many other sites are availible on the internet Face Book for example? way better site and much more popular.
I am a 30yr old mother of 4. just looking for some good conversation
There is a lot that is unsavoury about POF.
The personality quizzes for example: one of them asks whether you want your children to grow up speaking English (the quiz is administered in English, the site functions in English, so it isn’t hard to figure out what is being implied here); another of the personality quizzes has a link to definitions, supposedly the “fun” definitions, that are part of a BDSM site (yeech!).
The forum moderation is way-over-appropriately authoritarian, one of the lead henchmen being this “Bay Street” guy who writes downright and breathtakingly nasty messages (and has the most distastefully egotistical profile, almost a joke in itself!) — but this is all no great loss because the discourse is so tasteless who’d ever want to stick their toes in those ugly pools and sully their reputations by participating?
As for the dating service itself, an overwhelming number of the profiles are extinct — that is, haven’t logged in for so-much-more-than 30 days that the system doesn’t admit the last log-in. In my case, searches that bring up more than 700 profiles only have about 30 active profiles (logged in within the last 30 days). There is no way to specify in the search specifications, for active members — I’m guessing because the results would be pretty damaging to the programmer’s braggadocio.
There is no standard for the profile content — often people type in alphabet soup and gibberish to get past the prompt and those profiles are never deleted.
One of the biggest jokes of the site is on the messaging screen — a top ten list of things men want to read in their messages (so ladies, apparently you’re supposed to be taking the hint here and write accordingly). But there is no similar top ten list for the women (and truly, the men really need help, so many of them so apparently barely literate). Personally, if I were a man and got a message that following any significant number of the tips (the POF version of The Rules,apparently), I’d be curling my lips and thinking FAKE!
It is also surprising, despite the spell checker (which flags but doesn’t suggest) how much bad spelling is posted up, making the perpetrators look pathetic. The programmer also makes many spelling and conspicuous/obvious grammar mistakes in the system’s screens, that contribute to an unprofessional presentation.
The members’ profile picture scaling/distortion problem really needs to be addressed and fixed and the fact that this is an obvious and continuing problem doesn’t speak well of the programmer’s skills — maybe he just can’t cope, technically. The pictures are, after all, the major selling point for the members, as the site prompts over and over again.
The dancing pickles and other blinkies provided to decorate profiles are the tasteless equivalent of blinking text from mid-90s style HTML (men often fill up their profiles with these blinkies to meet the minimum character count).
The editor often mangles the text formatting (swallowing up brackets, stuff in brackets, doing weird things to angle brackets and square brackets and the words inside.) Again, all of this doesn’t portray the programmer as being too skilled.
if you want illiteracy…scope out some of yayawhatevers drivel…
my posting “priveleges” were suspended…i guess my “privileges” are still good to go …yet another person i know had their “priviledges” revoked…
in one email she wrote to me…she used the word…”irregardless”…i took her up on that word but she reassured me that indeed it is a word…it might be by now…its probably easier to edit a dictionary than to educate all the illiterate people using such words…
but yeah…i gotta agree with you…the “Creators” figures on the number of users on this site is just slightly bolstered…
I’ve had a few bad problems with PoF. I too have experienced the fascist nature of the moderators, one of which I protested against (and of course, that too is against the rules), and was banned from the forums. My major problem is that I can’t email certain women, while the message initially says it is sent, as soon as you check your sent box, it was never sent. I got the run around from the mods, with them constantly telling me it was the restriction filter (yet none of the women had restrictions that would prevent me from contacting them – and when that is the case, the site specifically states you are unable to contact them). No one seemed to care. No one would admit there MIGHT be a problem – you’d swear you were listening to the government!
There are indeed a lot of large, older, divorcees with kids. It’s hard to find a younger woman that isn’t fake, or only into supermodel guys… I’ve nearly had it.
They will never EVER admit that there is something wrong with their perfect system. When you puh them on the subject, they ban you! Especially that fruitcake Ticketoride! Condescending prick!
I had the exact same issue as you Joey and when I tried asking over and over again, because what they were saying had absolutely no affect, they banned me…until 2021 no less! LMAO! See, when they can’t figure out the problem and can’t give you answers, they simply ban you. That way you can’t make them look like the idiots they are!
Yeah, that’s the same guy that blocked me on the email after I started asking about the problem in private. And Yayawhatever banned me from the forums after I complained about ticketoride’s behavior, not to mention giving me the same crap about filters and other garbage. They don’t even listen to you. I deleted my account. I got tired of that crap, and only uglies messaging me.
I find all of this very interesting. I opened an account on POF about two months ago – I am a female and to the better part was enjoying the experience. My profile was legit, contained no nudity – nothing foul. Just a girl looking for a “other relationship” 4 days ago my profile was deleted and my IP is banned from the site. I have no idea why. I even reregistered several times and those new profiles were closed within a half hour of me using them. Each time I had hopes that all was fine but no go. I sent several emails through the system to ask to be reinstated. I even apologised, for what i don’t know. but I did. So here’s where its all at – me being silly trying to get back to a site that blocked me, feeling like a fool doing so. To date there has been no response from Markus or anyone else for that matter regarding my request for assistance. Brantfordgrrl
Brantfordgirl – Did you jhave more than one account. Does someone else access POF from your computer? If so, that’s why you were deleted and banned. Same thing happened to me last year. A few guys at work were goign there from the same computer (because of different shifts) and we all got deleted and banned. It’s a stupid system run by an egomaniac who doesn’t help anyone out! The Mods are rude and condescending and very un-helpful.
I have found POF to be a very useful and fun site. Why pay for online dating when there are so many more “fish” to choose from on a site that is – as they claim – 100% free. Altho I did notice, I responded to a couple of married men looking for no strings sex – not to take them up on it, but to gently ask their faithful wife would think and to please not hurt someone that way. I’m no Mother Teresa, just have been cheated on and it HURTS. Only POF deleted those emails and they just vanshed, and were nowhere to be found in my Sent Msgs. I do wonder if they read your correspondence! Scary! Other than that, the site is great.
Yes Max, my husband has one but his is gone too. Thing is why the harsh and heavy handed approach of completely banning people who have a profile on the site but use the same home network. Home networks are the norm today – that’s why Rogers, Bell and all the others do not charge for the extra computer on the same account, not like they used to. The other thing that has drawn my attention through reading stuff here and elsewhere is POF’s mainstay is Google’s Adsense. By outright banning legit profiles I would think that the site owner is basically shooting himself in the foot because he is throwing legitimate click throughs out the window. It doesn’t make sense to me business wise but it’s HIS site so he does as he wishes. I just wish he would unban my pathetic ass. Oh and by the way – I have never used the forums there – never even got the chance to go through it. Brantfordgrrl
You could always setup a proxy and use a different email account. However, I would urge you not to waste your time with that stupid site.
It’s a site for the losers that are too cheap to pay for a membership. This doesn’t mean the pay sites are better. It does mean that many of these POF users are desperate slobs who could not look attractive on any site, so they don’t want to pay.
Years ago when Rogers cable co. in Toronto were having major customer service problems someone set-up a website called “I hate rogers.com”.Thousands of hits and eventually service improved.
If I knew anything about websites I wouldn’t hesitate to set-up an “Ihate POF.com”to try and stop these internet nazis from abusing their members.
I was “banished” and never recieved a warning and have no idea why? How do I fix this or try and find out what the story is? someone please e-mail me?
The nice thing about plentyoffish is that it proves that -any- idiot truly can make those millions!
As an IT professional, I can tell you that Frind is a hack. It’s one thing to start a business; it’s another to do so claiming it’s a service, then lie about why you started it (at least keep your story straight!) and paint yourself as some sort of internet messiah with claims of AI and superiority.
Don’t go to PoF. Don’t let your friends go there. Frind has made his money; it’s time to look for something better than a weak ASP site that doesn’t do simple things like remembering your login.
He’s had his fun; don’t feed that egomaniac any more!
checker said:
The nice thing about plentyoffish is that it proves that -any- idiot truly can make those millions!
As an IT professional, I can tell you that Frind is a hack. It’s one thing to start a business; it’s another to do so claiming it’s a service, then lie about why you started it (at least keep your story straight!) and paint yourself as some sort of internet messiah with claims of AI and superiority.
Don’t go to PoF. Don’t let your friends go there. Frind has made his money; it’s time to look for something better than a weak ASP site that doesn’t do simple things like remembering your login.
He’s had his fun; don’t feed that egomaniac any more!
Thanks Checker,
I agree that Frind is an egotistical self -deluded idiot, however I’m stuck on what to call those people that work for this millionaire for free,”Moronator” just doesn’t quite cut it.
all i have to say about it is for the prospective “fish”…look elsewhere…or if thats not an option dont click on any of the adverts you find…markus needs a reality check
Why on this earth do people use POF is beyond logic. The dating part of it is dreadful. Most of the people you will find in there are just too cheap to a small amount per month to meet posters who are actually interested in meeting others. Because it’s free, you get liars, crooks, thieves and even sexual predators. All they need is software to hide their IP’s and move on to their victims.
As of my past experiences with POF, I have not met one person who was even remotely close to be honest. That’s probably why one will read so many profiles that claims that they are no longer interested in meeting people from POF and that they use it just for the Forums.
Awww the FORUMS! What a load of crap that is! Forums controlled by moderators who are extremely biased in regards to who will get ban or not. In a past experienced, I saw that OP literally insult a poster on many occasions and once the poster had enough, he called the OP an idiot. Guess what? The poster was banned! How stupid is that?
I sent an email a few days later asking the reasons for this moderator to ban people while some whom obviously should’ve been before, and he just answered that rules are rules with a link to the site.
This is a gestapo type of forums. They are VERY selective in who stays and who goes not to mention the little fact that some looses their complete profile without any explanations whatsoever. If you were in contact with someone, you just lost her or him.
Also you will notice in the forums that it’s always the same posts that keeps on coming back over and over and over again. Why do people continue to use them is just mind boggling.
Let’s not forget the fact that POF can delete a post or better yet, the thread without any warning whatsoever and even worst…NO REASONS!
I truly dont understand that a service (even if free) can delete anyones profile at any time without reasons. One cant supply a service and play God with it…as far as I am concerned anyway. Perhaps there’s internet regulations out there that would prevent the Nazi owner and his SS troops/moderators…perhaps from different countries? Anyway, I think it’s worth checking and if they are out there, slap POF with them and get that site out of service.
Stay away from Plentyoffish people. I promise you that you will NEVER get anything other than frustration out of it.
I found this website to be very classy! you have to pay but i think they are offering a free VIP membership to new members as I am able to contact people…worth a check i think…. http://www.friskiedating.com … and no i am not a spammer!!!
I went on this so called plentyoffish and created a profile. Hoping to find someone human in my community. However in the end all I came across were racists and other female losers. one particular racist young woman from Charleston South Carolina was quite horrible. Though this is what resides in my community, racists. I am in the deep south in city that likes to pride itself on being “different”, indeed it is and is a horrible place to be a young man unless you like lesbians and man haters. I was very sorry in thinking that plentyoffish could be some sort of alternative. It was the first and last dating site I shall ever sign up for. These site, including myspace are a haven for sick women who hate men and or are ego maniacs and racists. In many ways it has changed my opinion of women in this nation. I have accepted the fact that there is no one for me here.
Markus IS THE mod on PlentyOfFish. And anyone who’s used POF is most likely a fool if they don’t obviousley know that “M. Barton” IS Markus.
I don’t use that Nazi dating site anymore. Bub bye POF!
Don’t let this Markus F. tyrant sucker you into using this dating site because it’s free.
I have used this site for more than a couple of years only time and time again to have my profile deleted (without any warning) because some moron appointed moderator didn’t like what I had to say, or some troublemaking buttkisser of the moderators just doesn’t like you for no good reason(and no breaking any rules were needed). PlentyOfFish.com is filled with these “moderator” troublemakers, creator Markus included because he knows and just doesn’t care. Even my many complaints over the years about abusive users have gone completely unanswered. And because you don’t “pay” (that’s right, you just have to put up with their constant and super annoying banner ads all over the place), you have absolutely NO rights whatsoever on that site. And they can, and do, whatever they like. Namely constantly deleting profiles whenever they please. Same thing on the forums. And NEVER with any warning at all. How would you like to have spent a lot of time doing up a good profile of yourself, and meeting people, saving their contact info, messages etc. Even meeting someone really special as rare as that is…..only to log on one day only to find your profile is gone. That special someone is gone! All of it! All your messages, all of your contacts! Is it worth the stress to have this happen constantly? My profile was deleted on CHRISTMAS!. I did nothing wrong in the least. But why should I be confused about that when I know about how that dating site is run. And I’m not the only one. Many many people have had the same thing happen to them, and are still having it happen. Just enter “complaints” along with a Plentyoffish.com search, and you’ll find out for yourselves…..that PlentyOfFish, is really PlentyOfNazis! (mainly ONE Nazi)
Beware people. Try another site, POF isn’t the only completely “free” site.
Enough is enough, and with all the other free sites out there, your site is GONE Markus. And that, is written in stone. And you, are going to suck on it loser.
P.S. Note to people. This is a fictitious name and POF does not know who I am….so you POF admin losers ( Markus
) can forget about coming on here and using the same tired desperate and lame “banned user” manoeuver on me.
Say goodbye to your POF money Nazi.
Amen!
A little bit of information on our Plentyoffish.com owner and moderator Markus Frind
http://moneygeek.blogspot.com/2006/08/plentyoffishcom-10000-per-day-and.html
glad i found this site. doesn’t it make you feel just a little bit better,
to be able to complain ?
plentyoffish sucks.
they will let the women post anything, on their profile’s, but banned me for
posting what i’m looking for in a woman.
i said “small, slim, petite only. no one over 110lbs”.
i quickly received to hate filled, bitchy mail’s from two fat, ugly female’s.
within minutes of receiving those hate filled mail’s, my profile was deleted.
have tried to re-up several time’s, just to have them deleted within minutes.
apparently there are several fat, ugly, man/sex starved female’s working for pof, deleting profile’s of guy’s they know they will never be able to have.
pof, and those buttugly women can kiss my pretty ass. i will not return.
thanks, i feel better.
bob
I think Plenty of fish is a great site that does not have the issues of rampant scammers that the paid sites do (Match.com).
It is easy to use, there are many members local to me, and I have met a few people on the site. To me a dating site is just another venue to meet people, it is not the end all and be all, and a dating site can’t make miracles happen. As in offline life, there are always going to be be people that are interested in you that you aren’t interested in and vice versa, one can’t blame a dating site for who does and does not want you.
I will continue to be a happy satisfied member of Plenty of Fish.
genie must be one of those fat/buttugly women who delete profiles on plentyoffish.
unfortunately i’ve met many like her on dating site’s.
you simply state what you want in someone, and genie and her fat buddies bombard you with hate mail, because you don’t want them. calling you all kind of names, telling you how shallow you are because you’re not attracted to fat women. blah blah blah.
hey genie, get your mouth wired shut, lose some weight, get you hair and make-up done, get a new photo, and try again. you never can tell, there may be a good looking woman hiding in there somewhere.
bob
I am going to try your site and see what comes up. I went on plent of fish and was on there foe three years and fond nothing but women wanting a man to support them and some one elses kids. Have a good one
I agree, plentyoffish is fascist. I started a thread complaining about not having any luck, stating that there seemed to be a lot of women who were attention junkies there.
Of course, a female moderator deleted my thread and put me down for having the temerity to speak my mind.
POF does not allow freedom of speech. ‘Fair comment’ is a concept that is alien to them. If you complain about their fascist policies, they ignore you.
That ’s it. I’m done with POF.
Enjoying the truth being posted about your Nazi POF site Markus?
Or should I call you “Genie”?
lmao!
When i googled mate1 which was a site i was interested in joining i saw an article in the ripoffreport. It claimed that the dating site of Mate1 hired online ambassadors to make fake profiles. They were paid to falsly make people believe they had a chance. Does this happen on all the dating sites?
Plenty of Fish as removed me for no valid reason. Even after emailing them numerous times to find out what happened they are too scared too even come up with a reason for their action. I mean I’m sure they have the log files and could explain to me if I had done something wrong not to come back. Yet, they don’t. I guess that’s why the site is free because it would be a ripoff otherwise.
Don’t expect any success whatsoever with Plentyoffish. Most free sites are only available for them to make loads of money through advertisement. They couldn’t care less about you and your success rate, liars, thieves and sexual predators who are members of the site. It’s a perfect breeding ground for criminals looking for victims and no one can point a finger at them once they got a victim. Delete his or hers profile and rewrite a new one using a software that will hide their own IP and voila. Ready for another victim.
Furthermore, a good portion of the members on free sites are not really serious about meeting other people. For some, it’s an attention grabber and a perfect way to responses just by posting a fake profile. If you think that you will ever meet this great looking lady or man, think again. It happened to me twice so I do have an idea how it works. You communicate with someone for a while but she always refused to meet until of course they come out clean wasting your time for a while.
You also have the ones that will post pictures that are outdated by up to 15 years. Want proof? Get yourself a profile and write to women or men until you get one who’s interested. Then ask for a recent picture…you will rarely get one and if they did sent one, you probably will not recognize the person in it.
Forums? Now that’s a joke! It’s controlled by moderators who are extremely biased with who stays and who goes. And don’t ever dare criticize one of them as it’s an instant ban from forums. I’m not kidding! Some subjects are taboo and will be instantly deleted such as 911. What’s up with that?
Bottom line, stay clear people. You will only waste your time…well unless you need some attention because you have no luck in real life than go for it. There’s plenty of your type in there.
Get Ready
for more profile deletions now that the wandering moronator”Late”, has returned to dispensing his trademarked POF drivel after a much ballyhooed move to mooch off Alberta aquaintences has left him in the hinterland of Ontario presumably gathering berries and government “art council” grants.
Any chance that multi- millionaire moronator Markus can spare some small change to help out volunteer moronator “Late” move to Alberta to see his overly excited Edmontonian soul mate “themadfiddler”?
Everyone! Make a fake profile on PlentyOfFish. I have. All you need is another email address, just sign up for another free Yahoo acount. And use that phoney profile to go into the PlentyOfFish forums and POST LINKS TO THIS FORUM/PAGE! …. http://flirt-coach.net/plentyoffish-review/
They need some free advertizing DON’T they?
I can not get my password.It say’s my e-mail address is not in the system.Can you help me!
Plentyoffish is definitely right wing almost to the point of being facist read the rules of the forums. If you are creative you will be ripped to shreds. Just not a fun place. The more liberal people are congregating elsewhere I hope to find them soon.
Definitely a right wing website. Just not a fun place for the creative.
The only thing that’s right wing about POF and it’s moronators is the heavy-handed fascist way they treat their members.
Try posting a right wing /conservative or a pro-American view point on the forums and see how quick the POF Communist moronators delete it and/ or your profile.
The POF Moronators and their buddies would rather sit around in a circle jerking each other off that entertain a different point of view.
Yes… I find that they are quite fascist as well.. I get threads deleted that have garnered several replies and interests from the pof community and they still dunk it and I even followed the rules! Also yes there is pettiness.
As for dating– only met a few guys on there– both were trolling for sex which ended up as dissapointments for me.
I’ve been reading about your comments of plentyoffish
I myself Im one that has been banished from the site wrongly,
I would like to know how to get back on.
In my house hold there are 4 people using the site to find someone and we were all on 1 computer. So that wasn’t my fault. it was removed all profiles and now tried getting on plenty of times and didn’t work.
I know he’s say it’s a computer problem but I wish he would help
Anyway, I would very much like to get back on, I had found someone once and was with the person for a while..I’d like another chance since it was un fairly put off
thanks
Seems there’s a lot of complaints about the forums… no matter what is being said in rebuttal about it, you cant dismiss/ignore the sheer number of complaints about the forum postings.
Nontheless– its a fun site to visit over-all. They just need to loosen up a bit.
POF has been very successful. I like it, but its got to the point were my profile got deleted for no reason. I happened twice, looks like they’re targeting ip addresses now… I tried paid websites as well, like eharmony, match and yahoo personals.
Learned alot from all these website, and started my own one which is seekcompanion. I made it live not long ago, I’m not promoting it yet or anything but will soon start …
Anyhow, two thumbs up to POF
Oh wow, why so many people hate POF, I’ve had a great success with it. I’ve been a member for over 5 months and didnt have a problem with it.
Plus for a note to Adrian, Interesting site, keep up the good work. Hopefully you’ll get some success with ur seek companion site like Marcus did with POF
Keep up the good work guys!
Jenny:
Just disagree with any of the Moronators and see how long you last.
They’re great at quoting rules but they’re also great at breaking those same rules whenever it suits them.
Just read their inflamatory posts.
This is a reply made by moderator Ticketoride to a member’s complaints on the forums:
Member: “And for the record, I am NOT affected ny this flag BUT I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH IT!!!
BAD DESIGN DECISIONS LIKE THIS WILL DRIVE PEOPLE AWAY NOT ATTACT NEW PEOPLE!!!”
Ticketoride: “The first step in this direction was taken about 1 year ago to limit Site Access to numerous foreign countries, answering up to the flood-calls from the wild such as:
“Me maka luv to u long time”.
Act II: … Gurjingh & Rashneesh walking up the Forum Planks proclaiming “Racism” and “Discrimination”. From a more technical Perspective, the Site was constantly being bogged down by this Type of Non-Sense.
As the Site continued to grow, further similar Implementations were put into effect such as refining E-Mail Blocking, “Instant Messenger” Tools, Profile Hiding, and streamlining Reporting Functions.
This newer particular Feature under Question was brought into Existance as the Result of endless Abuse by too many Men on this Site mass-mailing the Inboxes of too many Women who were not interested in any “Intimate Encounter” Relationships. Their Mailboxes were cluttered up to the point where “ease of oversight” was lost and were practically forced to delete their Profiles and start anew.
Doesn’t leave a very favourable impression among Women of this Dating Site.
THE ONLY THING DRIVEN AWAY WERE THE WOMEN.”
*****The only thing driven away from this site are people who believe that Nazism should be a thing of the past and that public hatemongering of non-caucasians should be prosecuted******
The big Moron Markus had this to say about free vs. pay dating site:
“Because as a paid service Plentyoffish would be making several hundred million dollars a year. Paid sites don’t go free because there is relatively little money in it.”
Does he truly believe that anyone would pay to be on his wonky screwed up site?
The only reason he’s making any money out of it is because people can’t refuse something for nothing.
The trade marked Moronator Late on the same thread:
“Actually, have you tried to have a profile taken OFF a pay site, even after you’ve stopped paying?”
When was the last time this idiot was paid for moronating?
But to a wanna be Che lording over members and being a big fish in a very small pond seems to be payment enough.
the only reason this site is still in existance is because the other alternative fee dating sites are retarded. they have like a five page sign up form. the colours are ugly. you cannot brows the member without being sucked into some kind of sign up window. I could go on but can’t think of any more right now.
the only reason this site is still in existance is because the other alternative fee dating sites are stupid . they have like a five page sign up form. the colours are ugly. you cannot brows the member without being sucked into some kind of sign up window. I could go on but can’t think of any more right now.
just got bell mobility text message bill, didnt know I was redirected to a totaly different site, all I did was open the new message box and filled out my cell phone # to get the pin #sent to my phone to contact a ficticious admirer I thought it was a new system for security reasons or something,turns out its a horoscope scam,seems they want to mislead you and get a rake off from the cell phone boys,nothings free!!!!
POF is being controlled by a select few that are ruining what was good intentions & I am sure at one time a good site,I was threatened and reported it to a mod..supposed to be a rude free site right..the first mod was so flippant and callous I deleted my profile..not worth being stalked by ugly women that hate slim blondes!
Seriously..check out all the hate threads on blondes..I couldn’t even enjoy the forums after being stalked by “the followers” that you make angry when you disagree with their opinion..a lot of multiple profiles for many I suspect on that site..need more effective,fair moderators.
I did enjoy the forums at first..a great deal..but they do nothing to stop peronal attacks that cross the line..too bad..I hope he gets a handle on the jealous women on that site..and I need to say this..the Mod..trappedonbayst..He DID take care of my problem but it was after the first one was indifferent to my question concerning help on a woman that really was getting scary on that site!
Just my opinion on POF but if the owner doesn’t get a handle on the forums..more of the “ones fit to date” are going to be gone..and quick.
they are women decide we is fit to date they are only ones that delete men
[ The little bitch blocked me. ]
You expect a Response talking to a Moderator like that? You are expected to interact in a civilized and socially courteous and acceptable Manner, short of that, you’ll get our E-MAil Block Filter and lose the Privileges to receive further Communications from Moderators. If you are Respectful, we will deal with you in the same Fashion, something always ommitted on Boards like these, which poften paint an entirely different Picture.
[ Closes threads without any resolution. ]
Most Users do not bother to read the Reasons posted publically for such Closures, hence do not know why they are closed. Thus Resolution lies in the Initiative of the User to familiarize themselves with the extant Issues of the Subject Matter.
[ Thinks he’s some kind of genious but problems NEVER get resolved! ]
No need to “think” anything. We assist Users to resolve their Problems based on the vast Database of Information available, and usually get decent Results. A lot of the Time the Problems lie with Users, their Computers or ISP, outside our Sphere of Control. More often than not our Advisories point User into the right Direction to help them resolve these Issues.
[ I guess that’s the only way he feels important because he’s sure not getting "any" from the site! ]
This Post again so clearly indicates the Type of Trolls we deal with daily who absolutely have no Insight into their Conduct whatsoever, hence nothing to resolve.
[ See, when they can’t figure out the problem and can’t give you answers, they simply ban you. ]
Again, more Nonsense that doesn’t beg much of a Reply.
[ The only thing driven away from this site are people who believe that Nazism should be a thing of the past and that public hatemongering of non-caucasians should be prosecuted ]
Just another Dude peeved having been banned by the Intimate Encounter Filter.
One simple question Tickettoride:
When Moderators and their “friends” go trolling and break POF rules who polices them?
[When Moderators and their “friends” go trolling and break POF rules who polices them?]
bigbo don’t waste your time with the click happy power trippers if they don’t like you on POF your simply won’t be there , unless your good at changing your ip address like many.
I told these dorks years ago they should remained un aliased like many moderators on other sites.
surf the net and i’ll guarantee you , you will not see moderators disliked as much as the ones running the forums on pof.
My 2cents on POF:
I’m a little surprised by the negative comments. My experiences have been very rewarding personally and romantically. Mainly a forum issue? First off, it’s free. I would personally NEVER pay money to meet people online. Just a personal preference. There are so many horror stories and it’s just a waste of money. Then a problem I had in the past with free sites was the quality of matches and the distance. Basically sites would make you sign up only to discover 10 people in your city (sometimes not even that). Pathetic. On pof, there are always pages and pages of people within a 5mile radius of myself. And not people that canceled and are ‘plants’. People that have been online recently.
I have met several boyfriends on the site, and have been able to weed out liars and guys I would never date pretty quickly with their profile setup. Knowing immediately about kids, drinking, smoking, religion, profession, and intent is really key. In particular finding out if someone is looking for friends over dating, or hangout, or ltr, or sex only. It’s good to know upfront. My other experiences have included sites that didn’t require this info, and led to me wasting time on guys, to only get asked, ’so you wanna hookup at my place’. I like knowing if you’re looking for sex, a buddy, or romance. You can also limit who can message you. You can limit by location, age, intent etc. Love that feature.
And I’ve also found the forums particularly helpful. In particular the ask a guy/girl section. Nothing better than getting nagging questions answered by the opposite sex etc. Ditto on relationship advice or what have you. I routinely stay ‘hidden’ while in relationships just to converse on forums. Then, ok a relationship ends, unhide and back to seeking out profiles. I’m pretty speechless on all of the mod complaints, as I’ve never had a run-in in several years there, so can’t talk from personal experience. But I don’t doubt there are some bad mods. They’re really hurting a good site.
Most recently I met another great guy there, who I’m seeing and we have a ton in common. For my money (which is nothing lol), pof is just the best site to meet/screen/converse/date. I definately prefer online dating to ‘oldfashioned’ dating mainly for the screening process it allows. And have tried various sites since about 18 (I’m now in my early 20s) and have had much better luck this way than meeting frat guys or strangers randomly who I’d have nothing in common with/know nothing about. And I’ve tried a bunch. Trials on match, yahoo, american singles, ok cupid, date hookup, friendfinders, jump dates, matchdoctor, you name it (and a lot of those are just trying to be myspace now). POF is the best imo.
Oh yea, there also isn’t as much profile censoring like in some sites, where people scour your profile to delete things. Like, you can easily put in your email/aim/myspace (albeit slightly hidden) and not get deleted or something. For instance, they have the word ‘myspace’ blocked (in profiles and messages)…it’ll come out as ‘spam’. You have to say ‘my spa ce’ or something like that. Cons? It could look a little snazzier. Just this dull blue background, pretty boring looking. But most of the snazzy looking sites, have nothing beyond pretty colors. Hmm, and the IM feature can be annoying. I only got weirdos IMing me. I turned it off. Nice feature though lol. Pretty great site if you avoid the mods I guess. And don’t live in a remote town.
I’ve had similar problems to the above listed posts..
I’ve had a couple of profiles deleted..for no reason that i can understand..I completely read the terms of agreement and could find nothing listed tat would explain my profile deletion ..other then being able to deny anyone service under there own discretion
Ive even had a post deleted because i mentioned that the mods do not respond to e-mails regarding this very problem..
not only that ..but due to that very post..im not alowed to post threads on the site till 2010..lol.. now i could open a new e-mail acount..redo my profile under a new name..but why bother..im starting to doubt the internet is realy a good place to find someone..realy pof is just the straw.
btw..anyone who needs to talk /e-mail a mod on the site…if your not getting a response..e-mail the adfvertisers..they wont be able to help you..but with all the unsatisfied ppl e-mailing them about site problems..might just make them have a lil talk with the mod/addmin on the site
Macus said……
“The people complaining above were banned for creating a lot of fake profiles and nearly 50 complaints from users, putting them in the top 10 all time pests. You can see they tried to spam wikipedia and alexa to and basically every site on the net that allowed posting.”
How does Macus know what profiles the above ppl had “once a profile is deleted its completly removed from the system”according to the sites own help system
is this just a speach he prepared in advance?
a couple more things
1) Macus breaks the’ privacy act ‘by stating ppl in this review were on his site..cause for suit i say.
2) anyone here defending the site is obviously a mod / minion of the site
3) ppl are only complaining about pof here because of the deaf ear of the site admin.
4) after reading all this..im wondering why i even want to be on the site at all
Well I just had my profile deleted for no reason. So guy who appears to have three different profiles under different alias’ instant messages me and calls me rude names (no need to repeat) so I tell him he’s been blocked and block him. Interesting how three instant messages all use the same rude comments to me at the same time. Then I report him and pof deletes my profile. Nice. I emailed customer service and of course no response. Re-create my profile again and he delete’s me again without responding to my message. I find the site a little addictive but enjoy it and have lots of friends on there and am really annoyed about this…..any suggestions on getting through to the owner….he obviously hasn’t even deleted the guy with three profiles. Mind boggling…
Because Ken we really miss the site..and we are hoping the couple of glitches get fixed about the forums..thats why we are here bitching with valid complaints..also like you I dont understand not having access to the owner of his creation!
Does any whiz/geek folks on here know how a similar site could be set up..what if someone has the set up money but not the knowledge to do it?
Until POF gets rid of Moronators like the scruffy pig faced “Late” ,who constantly abuses the rules he loves to quote,don’t expect any improvements.
[quote]Until POF gets rid of Moronators like the scruffy pig faced “Late”[/quote]
Late is actually the best of the bunch. (The worst is Ticketoride, he’s in love with power.)
[quote]The people complaining above were banned for creating a lot of fake profiles[/quote]
Really, Markus? I find it hard to believe that. Recently I got a friend of mine to sign up and her profile was deleted 24 hours later without even a polite email to tell her why. She had spent some time on her profile and is quite unhappy about being treated so poorly by you.
[quote]There is no staff[/quote]
You certainly are not doing all the programming yourself, Markus. (Though the bugs that are still there certainly show you’ve done some of it!)
[quote]Nearly 80% of the threads deleted per day are done by the million + mini mods.[/quote]
Markus just added a new “feature” to the thread voting: if the mods don’t like the way you vote (i.e. don’t agree with your opinions), they take the vote feature away. They say that they only do it to users that abuse the feature, but how can expressing an opinion via the vote be abuse?
[quote]All in all my approach is the only way forums work on dating sites[/quote]
Whoa there, boy! You don’t have the “only way” at all, in fact your way isn’t even close to working well. Many users are complaining behind your back about how boring your forums have become.
[quote]Also there are only 4 moderators who watch 200+ forums[/quote]
Two hundred forums? No wonder your software is so buggy if you have that much trouble counting!
[quote]several hundred thousand people access/use the forum a month[/quote]
Yeah, right. Sure.
[quote]10’s of thousands of posts per day[/quote]
There are not “10’s of thousands of posts per day”. Who do you think you are fooling?
[quote]Has anyone had some good experiences with PlentyOfFish? [/quote]
Yes, I’ve made some very good friends there. But all of them are unhappy with the way POF is run and with how good users are punished for trivial issues.
[quote]bear in mind that Markus is the owner and claims to earn $10,000 a day from Adsense ads)[/quote]
Even if he’s taking in $10,000 a day, he’s failing to mention how much of that he sends back to Google for all the advertising he is doing. Adwords isn’t cheap.
I’ve also heard that Google has been cutting payments to Markus because his site isn’t meeting the quality standards that Google requires.
For that matter if Markus is really making $10,000 per day, why doesn’t he have some paid staff instead of using moderators that are only there for the power trip?
[quote]This is nothing more than a rumour that moderators and the admin read email[/quote]
How many names are you going to post with, Markus? Weren’t you ranting about fake profiles a few posts back?
[quote]If you garnered the attention of 2 or more moderators for your behavior on a site that has in excess of 10,000 posts daily, then it is you, Raksha, who was the problem.[/quote]
You don’t have 10,000 posts a day, Markus, and you really do need to look at the abusive behavior of your moderators. Ticketoride bashes new users that have simply asked for a bit of help. He’s rude and unprofessional. Yet there he is doing what’d get a normal user banned with no repercussions at all.
[quote] Markus is a nazi asshole.[/quote]
I have to agree after reading this:
“You have previously uploaded unacceptably blurry Images and your Pic Upload Privileges view profile have been revoked.”
So Markus didn’t like some woman’s pictures because they were to fuzzy (of course it couldn’t have been his crappy re-sizing software) and she gets her upload privs revokes. How mature is that?
Late is most certainly not only the nicest, but also the one moderator who is reasonable on that entire site. I like him very much, and frankly think he is sort of hot.
Aside from the fact that the rest of the mods are aholes… The forums are patrolled with nazi like acumen, but only when they feel like it, you get disciplined for things that they never tell you that you have done wrong, therefore cannot defend yourself. The programming is buggy, the thread deletion voting is a sham, and in the case of one very abusive twit, he seems to be able to make alternate profiles, I have counted 7 thus far… yet new people are deleted from the system for no apparent reason and not allowed to defend themselves, or even told when it happens or why.
I also would like to accuse POF publicly of discrimination against GLBT members and that community at large. Any suggestions in the forum for that purpose, is immediately either deleted or closed with rude comments, mostly from Tickettoride, who has an obvious case of cranio-rectal disorder. There have been suggestions repeatedly saying that they need a GLBT forum, and it is poo pooed as being a “polarizing subject.” When in fact, there are “Ask a girl”, “Ask a guy”, “Over 45″, “Over 50″, Single Parents… all could be considered special interest or “polarizing” forum threads.
I have never seen anyone so stuck on himself as Markus. He writes things all over the net about what a great business it is, yet runs it like a neighbourhood lemonade stand, allowing a group of very unprofessional moderators, with no stated or substantial policies… not selling the lemonade to the people he or she arbitrarily chooses to dislike. He has deleted the accounts of people who dare to comment and complain about him, rather than realizing that the best defense is to ignore comments, rather than having a holy hell fire powder baby tantrum. He is a complete and utter dildo, having only occasional useful purpose.
A real live, professional business, responds to it’s customers considerately and politely when they have issues. It’s called customer service and is all the rage in business. A real live, professional business, provides help to it’s customers in a compassionate, calm and not abusive fashion when they need it…
It was a good idea originally, but one day Markus will awake to discover that someone else will steal his customers away, thus removing his AdSense revenue, by being professional, fair and balanced. A flash in the pan makes their money and spends it, a businessperson considers wisely complaints, comments and suggestions in an ongoing effort to grow a business in a smooth and reliable fashion.
Oh yes, and go ahead Markus, delete my profile if you choose. I will immediately post the deletion here and everywhere else I can find to post it net wide.
When I was a manager… I was acutely aware that every unsatisfied customer cost me money in the long run. You would do well to follow the advice of professionals, by getting a real businessperson to evaluate your business and actually consider listening to, and/or implementing their ideas.
You think Late is hot? In a pork faced, hair obsessed ,neandrathal way?.
Well ,I guess it proves that there is a someone for anyone even if they look like they havn’t washed in months.
I know that the bad boy image is why Bernardo still gets love letters in jail,but who knew that the scruffy pig look could be so appealing?Oh well to each his own.
Besides your opinion of the trademarked “Late”(BTW ,what kind of self inflated ego would claim his screen name was registered?), I agree with everything you’ve stated.
>BTW ,what kind of self inflated ego would claim his screen name was
>registered?
You obvious missed the joke.
Ticketoride said, “You are expected to interact in a civilized and socially courteous and acceptable Manner.” Too bad he doesn’t take his own advice.
trappedonbaystreet is hot & classy..sexy!!..mmhmmm
Sorry Cotton, but I think Trappedonbaystreet is in love with the mirror.
“Trappedonboobst” is as big as power tripping idiot as the rest of them, the long story short if you hit any of them from behind they would all fly up each other’s asses.
As I said POF Moderators are the most hated mods on the net soon to becoming rapidly global.
It appears the goal of the Markus and the mods is to make the POF forums as completely boring as they could possibly be. Elle Beau’s prediction of loss of income as users flee for other sites is already underway.
I’m making popcorn!
“It appears the goal of the Markus and the mods is to make the POF forums as completely boring as they could possibly be”
nicely said David sooner or later the Mods attitudes are going to catch up and in the end start becoming a reflection on the popularity of the site it’s self if it hasn’t already.
The snotty attitudes and thinking they are smarter than every one else will bring the site a worse name than it already is detouring users to want to join.
” 8th February 2008
bigbo said:
One simple question Tickettoride:
When Moderators and their “friends” go trolling and break POF rules who polices them? ”
Smatter Tickettolose, no answer? I’m SO shocked.
Has Markus the incompetent Nazi geek got your tongue?
And yes, that’s right geek. That’s the sound of your money going down the toilet.
lol!
have to agree as an EX user of POF that the deleting process stinks. I have been removed for no reason and I sincerely hope POF dies very soon. Its a dump full of fake women and married women and ugly women and women with kids desperate for money or a free night out. Most of the wonmen I spoke to were liars fakes and psychos….a BAD experience overall.
Even though POF is a free site that doesn’t mean the owner can delete accounts without legal liability. The deletions can be consider libel and in many cases do actual harm to the individual’s reputation. Markus just might find himself embroiled in legal trouble in the near future and in Canada libel can even be prosecuted as a crime.
Markus considers his users all to be losers because they are single and using a dating site. That goes a long way towards explaining his attitude problem.
See if you can find the self-promotion:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plenty_of_fish
Oh, and here’s some more free advertising for you Nazi geek Markus
And people, visit this forum too!:
http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/Plentyoffish-Worst-Dating-Site-Anywhere-t248748.html
Looks like he already got that forum censored.
Ahem!: http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/Plentyoffish-D0T-C0M-Worst-Dating-Site-Anywhere-t249278.html
Does anyone know about this..what if you were on his site..were threatened (not any bs either)..continually threatened & harrassed by a member of POF..yet when she was reported they did nothing??
She is still on POF..that is one dangerous woman..she claims to be a teacher & when I do narrow it down where she works..I will report her,she should not be around children & definitely not on a dating site.
Fit to dat site my southern butt..men listen to me..I had a male friend I convinced to join (bad move on my part)..he meets 4 different women..all with kids wanting free meals & money..then one psycho who tried selling him fake jewlrey!..I was one of the few women it seemed that really wanted to meet for just fun & couldnt get a date..wow..but the fat,ugly women that hate women like me were all over the place..wow
Know this too..have the protection on your computer up to date & running right when you go on POF..I never,ever had as many attempts to penetrate my computer as I did after joining POF..something just not right here..any others??
AFAIK POF’s reporting system works on raw numbers, i.e. there has to be a certain number of people reporting before anything is done. Obviously this doesn’t work well when it’s just one person that is being stalked and harassed.
POF moderators are the big problem. I think it is mostly ugly , miserable people that take their POWER too seriously. Most of my posts get deleted and I get banned forever for really not doing anything catastrophic. There is no warning , no place to even bring your case up calmly. The 7 of 10 vote is an illusion , a total joke. I have had legitimate threads deleted that have passed the so called vote. I have also seen threads just about voted off , suddenly get a clean slate. I am happy there are many good places to use forums, because if I had to rely on POF , my intelligent voice would never get out there. Go to hell to all these power hungry POF mods and to the fair mods , which I am sure there are, you are getting your name ruined by the few bad apples.
>POF moderators are the big problem
I disagree. The POF moderators are just a symptom. The owner is the real problem.
>There is no warning
Have you read any of their excuses for that? They are so pathetic. They’re latest trick is to take away voting privs because they don’t like the way you’ve been voting. No warning and no explaination.
Enjoying reading more of the facts about your crap site this morning Marcusgeek?
The POF Moronators spend their leisure time being big fish lording over a very small pond.
The fact that Marcus won’t pay them for their time despite earning thousands of dollars a week is indicative of an ancient management style commonly known as slavery .
The only reason I can think of someone willingly working for nothing is that they must be incredibly stupid and/or have such a self esteem problem that they are driven to compensate for their short comings by exercsing their authority over anyone who disagrees with them.
Oh cry me a river, *babydoll*. I happen to remember that thread where all of those who were coming out to openly mourn a fellow member were given their space and those, such as yourself in particular, were only there to stir the pot, and despite being asked in the forum to STOP, and despit being told to quit causing trouble, you continued. You were banned appropriately. You have no tact, and you were treated with the same type of respect you afforded your fellow members. And you cry over it. You were specifically told not to respond negatively in that particular thread, as were others. The others complied. You thumbed your nose at the site’s requests, and you were dealt the hand you were given because of it.
Time to put your big girl panties on and accept responsibility for your actions, *babydoll*.
I was a Plenty of Fish member for 6 months or more in Sarasota and Venice Florida. I am a male, 40 years old. I was quickly banned from contacting women who did not want to talk to members who had contacted others for intimate encounters. I had no idea until after I was contacted by a “female” who had that on her profile. No way to get unbanned. I think I got two dates out of the entire experience, the second was after a female I approached at a bar recognized me from the site. It took another 6 weeks to even get her to go out to dinner. Mostly divorced women with kids on POF, lots with issues, i don’t see why half the women on there are even on there. Most don’t reply, the others want to endlessly email back and forth or IM, never to meet in person. I’m 6 feet tall, washboard abs, humorous, well educated, I have a job, and most of my hair. Never got laid once or had a serious relationship come out of POF. Why would you want to go on the forums? All I wanted was to get a date, and get from behind my computer screen and get a life, you know, outside, in the world. Where people go out of their houses? Most POF women don’t seem to want that . Yep it’s free alright. Tread lightly, don’t post stuff in forums, and don’t expect any quick dates guys.
Please note that “Babylonia ” is a POF mod and hardly un-biased.
Doctor What,
CORRECTION. I WAS a POF moderator, and hardly working on half-truths and fables told by others to make them look the victim. I KNOW what happened, behind the scenes and in the threads I had to monitor. If you call knowing all of the facts, from start to finish (something you cannot claim to know whatsoever) “hardly un-biased”, then the facts of this situation isn’t what you are after. You are looking for ways to criticize without knowing a shred of the incident beyond conjecture.
Babylonia:
Congratulations on escaping slavery.
With time and help you can overcome that obsessive urge to control normal people’s posts and opinions.
Best of Luck.
>Babylonia:
>Congratulations on escaping slavery.
>With time and help you can overcome that obsessive urge to control normal >people’s posts and opinions.
>Best of Luck.
It is the POF way.. when in doubt, make shit up! Speaking of shit, email me for the best POF crap updates
lanluv846@hotmail.com
Hey Lanaf:
I’m sure all of us would love to see you post your POF updates here.
Awe bigbo, looks like you were one of those online ragers who couldn’t play nicely in the sandbox with the others. With time and a little careful handling, you too might be able to control your obsessive urge to hide behind your small world called your computer screen, insulting people, and confusing flame wars with “opinions”.
Best of luck to you too, “Bigbo”.
Everyone welcome Babylonia, yet another fat ugly (and mental) POF moderator.
Welcome to the board shoestain
“Babylonia:
Congratulations on escaping slavery.
With time and help you can overcome that obsessive urge to control normal people’s posts and opinions.
Best of Luck.”
LMAO!
>Awe bigbo, looks like you were one of those online ragers who couldn’t play
>nicely in the sandbox
Ah, yes, everyone that’s unhappy with POF must have been a bad kid in the sandbox. It certainly couldn’t be anything wrong with POF.
I heard that somebody complained about getting a bad word displayed in POF’s capcha recently. Of course the complaint was deleted by the ever so polite ticketoride.
I was on POF for the Forums (FORGET the date site part!!!
I have NEVER openly flamed anyone except once, without naming names, I stated a post was ignorant. OOPS..banned. No warning..nuttin.
There have been SEVERAL very informative threads regarding a serious Personality disorder that many POF ers have encountered in dating/marriage…each of these threads made it to 15 plus pages, only to SUDDENLY, no explanation, “disappear”. EVERYTIME!
Everyone in the threads getting along, helping one another, sharing similar experiences. Then…BLAM! Deleted!
Not reading ALL of Marcus’s 1000 Posting Do-Nots, a fellow poster, along with me, wrote a thread inquiring WHY was such a helpful, great thread arbitrarily deleted/closed/etc? (AGAIN?)
I was IMMEDIATELY “banned for years”….no communication, no warning, …
Funny…right after people figured it out before I did…I received about 30 emails warning me the “Nazis” would ban me for DARING to publicly question the MODS moves.Sure enough…the next day…I found out they were all correct.
I read their thread on POF(How to Be an MOD) and there are the current MODs laughing about the people they banned, how they are called “Nazis”by Trolls and Losers, and so on….talk about ego-maniacle Narcissistic LOSERS?
Only approx 5% of POF memeber are regular posters, and many have great, intelligent input.
Often one’s ideas, words, may pi$$ off many, but that is what Forums and freedom to say what one thinks is all about…as long as it is not a personal attack on another. POF does not allow freedom of thoughts…ideas. IF it does not tow THEIR line.
In the sex threads one can say ANYTHING…funny!
Just one person’s experiences w/POF and their Forums….
grain of salt am sure…
They are classic clinical cases. Jeez.
Babylonia:
I’ll assume that you just brought out the old tired sandbox line that’s been overdone by the other moronators before reaching your conclusion about my posts and why I was banned.
It’s an all too typical POF management idiotic response.
However,why would you ,who have professed to “regretably” given up your moronator duties apparently to concentrate on life outside “virtual reality” return to this site to reply to a posting made by “babydoll” Feb 5/2007 over one year ago?
Does your new husband(are you married yet,or is that also a figment of your imagination ?there are disturbing mixed messages on your POF profile) know that you’re the type of person to let something fester for over a year before lashing out incoherently?
Clearly you can’t seem to let go of the virtual control you had over others when you were in an unpaid position of irresponsibility with POF.
Try and let go of all things POF including your fellow moronator virtual” closest friends” whom I doubt you ever met in person.
Give yourself and your hubby a fighting chance in the real world.
I’ve been a casual member of the site. I never expected to really meet anyone from the site. I’ve chatted with some decent people but that seems to be a minority there. The majority seems to be people who are jaded bitches, golddigers, creeps, stalkers, fake profiles, trolling for sex etc. The sites run like a gestapo. I noticed alot of other members being abused and after googling found out about how people where treated unfairly if you speak out against them
Recently I met a girl there, fairly attractive and we seemed to have common life experiences and where in similar place in our lives. She even had the same job as I did. Same company different location. After weeks of correspondence her account gets deleted for no reason.
I inquire on the forums but I get nothing but links. I make a second post asking whether I can recover those deleted messages and the owner snaps at me. He seems like a bit of an jerk and a fascist.
She made a new account with new pics and told me she was kicked and when I went to reply to her the account was deleted.
Now I was worrying she was the one with a fake profile but our conversations doesnt suggest anything malicious.or fake. I”ve read about how people are getting kicked/banned for no reason and i’m wondering is this the same case.
Did I miss the chance to connect with someone special?
Jie…always within the first week of emails (WEEKS of communicating and no phone calls???? HUH?????WTH?!) give or get an email address! A REAL address!
.DO NOT use that site for your primary correspondence!
After a few emails and you like the person (and it is clearly mutual), get their phone # or give yours, and get a REAL email…anyone can go with Yahoo or Hotmail safely if they are paranoid.
POF is notorious for dumping profiles(people), and also many do have email problems like “empty” sent files, etc. with no explanation.
Best NOT to EVER ask Big Fish or the MODS about it either…from what I have been told by NUMEROUS folks, often a few repeated questions by the same person can be construed as “challenging” and they will delete you.
They are NOT “people-friendly” on that site. At all.
My advice (I finally learned) is to inquire by emailing someone on your Fav List (make sure they aren’t an MOD) and ask them your question.
I have gotten a lot of good advice (and bad…oops!) that way. Make sure it’s someone who has had an acct for awhile. Means they “survived’…lol!
Just my 1 cent…LD
i know this is an old story, but we always can talk about it…i loved to read it!
I just came across this page today and although it dont look like anyones said anything since 2006, I thought I would say something. I dont use the forums EVER and havent had any thing bad happen since I joined the site, but then I am one of the dreaded divorced woman with kids, didnt know so many men hate us??? But they must not be perfect either or they wouldnt be on the site, we just had our kids and married our mistakes instead of dumping them after a bad one nighter. I have many single girlfriends that have no kids and never married that use the site. And I am sure sme of the guys complaining about the diviorced girls are probly some of the ones that try to get booty calls from me, and rarely do I see profiles that say NO divorced girls or no kids. So what if there are alot of woman that are divorced with kids, many guys moms are like this. I meet many men like this, diivorced with kids, alot in 30 and up range will be. Its life, deal with it, go to another site then, BUt I have no issues with POF, I aint found Mr. Wonderful but have met some great guys, just not right for me, I am picky after being married for 10 yrs. And most live 2-3 hrs from me, so its hard to date alot of them, but I have. I have off and on been on the site for he past 6 mos, meet one I like an delete my account, and now I got a few a like and testing the waters to see if there a good match or not. I live in a tiny hicktown where there isnt much for options and I am told I am attractive, I havent lost my appeal to men yet, just cause i have kids and I am divorced, I turn away many guys from the site a day. I am 36, and my daughters are almost grown and gone, one is gone, she is 19 and youngest is 14, so not like I cant go out and have fun, not looking for a daddy figure or someone to suport me or my kids, I am looking for love and great sex would be nice too. Were not all bad, and neither is this site, there are good ones on it, just keep fishing..I dont want to have any babies myself, and it says that in my profile, say what u want and what your looking for, you will sift out teh ones you dont want, just say it nicely. I dont want babies at all, but if guy has kids, that is fine, I am open to that, and I try to avoid guys that do want to start a family, I dont want to fall in love and have him give up a dream of babies when I cant and dont want more, I was a mom at 17, and ready to travel and not be a full time mom, a few years left to go. I say this in my profile, u can have kids, but one of the first things I ask if I see there profile says they are undecided or open to having kids, I ask alot of questions and I am very blunt that I DO NOT want anymore babies. But you dont have to bash the site that most girls are divorced and have kids, so are the men I see or there all looking for booty calls, I get alot of young guys after me, looking for the cougar or MILF thing and it isnt any funner…The site is better then any others I have tryed, if forum is bad, which I never use, then duhhhh dont use it then, IM wont work, give them your name on yahoo or msn IM then, easy fix…
You’re an ugly tinydicked F@gg0t Markus.
“the 100% completely free dating site”, “put away your credit cards”
Smatter?……losing profits for some reason?? The dumb charging for sending “gifts” joke didn’t work out for you a few months back? Awwww.
Now the ugly Nazi crabfaced geek is CHARGING MEMBERS MONEY for wanting to be a “Serious Member”! HAHAHAHAHAHA!
I just joined POF about a week ago. I had used Match.com on and off for years and just decided that I’ve had enough of Match for good.
The one thing I noticed about POF is that I seem to get harassed much more than I am used to from people I dont want to talk to. I’ll have to wait to form my opinion of POF until I actually meet some men in person and see what happens. I’m good at screening people before I meet them and fortunately, I”ve never really had a “bad” date or been surprised by someone in person. We’ll see how I feel about POF. This is the first free site I’ve ever joined. I always figured the free ones would be the worst as far as the quality of people on there but, POF was mentioned to me by several people so we’ll see.
Wish me luck….
and PS, I will not be joining in on the forums though!!
after reading this site, it sounds like a mod nightmare and also, I’m not really interested anyway.
hey yes they do monitor your mail becouse it happen to me also. pof is a big pain in the butt waste of time .if you speak your mind to someone even in the most polite way they delete your account. lots of rats on pof marcus is a piece of shit admin also has profiles on that sight. thats how they play there fucking games. and delete peaple for no reason. soon as your on a roll and you got 5 to 10 women sending you replys bang the shut you down.
plentyoffish.com must have its instant messanger restored…it was the only life line for me to chat with singles outside my town for i dont have a phone…i was getting really close to someone through this…and the results could be wonderfull.plus you get the benifit of having that one on one chat to really get to know someone…..
Plentyoffish is a popular website. Many people are using it. Well, nice review to help people who wants to know about the website.
Wow, from 2006 until now, POF is still getting the same complaints and the same bad reviews.
Allow me to post the names of some of the clique members who will follow you from thread to thread in the forum if you disagree with them and basically make your life on the forum a living hell until you explode. Oh, and they also report you via the Forum Report thread for trying to protect yourself against their gang up behavior, and yes, the Moderators will BAN you!
Amazing right, but that’s because these members are part of the little clique that the Mods have — Members who can say and do what they want. They can criticzie attack members, and all of this appears on your dating profile so that no decent person will want to have anything to do with you.
VERITYONE,
ROCKMAN
SPLENDERE
AS IS
To name a few.
TRAPPEDONBAYSTREET is the worst!
He bans people for defending themselves against his favorite troll — sorry posters.
The POF forums are the WORST!!!!
Does anybody know what happened to the POF website? It seems to have disappeared. When I try to go to the website, all I get is “Oops this link appears to be broken”. Am I the only one?
My ex-boyfriend deleted me off of Plentyoffish.com.
How do I get back on it.
My email is KtKitKathy@aol.com
My name is Kathy5757
My pass word will be the same as I had it with them.
A reply would be appreciated.
I miss my friends I talked to on it.
this new site SUCKS!!!! Can’t get on. Any suggestions?
i love the site but it wont let me in any more. I was being to meet people on there in real life. I had one date and would had more but as i said it wouldnt let me in any more. dont know what happen but i wish it would get fixed so i could go back in the web site
please to get back in the web site i love it. but it wont let me back in any more. i have meet people in real life and went on a date
It’s just a bad movie unfolding watching this (ugly) Markus Frind loser continue to get more and more desperate as time passes.
“The 100% FREE dating Site!” LOL! “but I’m such a greedy and pathetic Nazi geek I’ll try and get around it by cooking up some retarded paying money for phoney flowers scheme, yea! That’s it!……wahhhh it didn’t work!” (no shit there. WHY would it???). So the ugly phuck pulls another totally pathetic and obviously stupid desperate move, and starts charging for people to become a “serious member” HAHAHAHA how LAME! “yeah! that’ll get me more money because my finances are quickly going down the cyber toilet since I am the single most hated dating site owner on the entire internet”. And any woman you ask on POF will tell you that they never asked for any “serious member” status on their profile, and that it just appeared suddenly on their profile. And, remember when the chatroom disappeared long ago too? lol.
Trouble in Nazi Jew Geek paradise there Markus? Kind of funny how you recently announced that you will no longer be having instant messaging on your site isn’t it? “more idiots on the system with IM” you say? “besides, there’s more users on the site without it” you say? And that’s why you’re not bringing it back? – TRANSLATION: “I’m continuing to get less and less users on my site every year because of the total sh!t way I run it, with my pathetic little Nazi minions preventing ANYone from voicing ANY form of polite free speech that does not conform to our own personal liking on the forums”. – And deleting profiles on a (Jew) wholesale basis, unjustly, without warning. – “And I’m so f’ng UGLY too that people hate me regardless of even using my site, just because they hate looking at my ugly a$$ed picture. And my girlfriend is the laughing stock of the entire net”.
You will be leaving the dating site business very soon Bastard. All the good people you have ever wronged on POF will see to it.
Cheers Crabface,
Dan
Plenty of Fish is an excellent website for what you pay…$zero. It is largely no frills, but is easy to use and browse. I have met several women from there and know people who have made long term connections using the site. I met my current girlfriend there.
The “serious member” thing is really not a bad deal. It highlights your profile and tells members of the opposite sex that you are indeed serious. It makes a difference and is very cheap.
As someone who has used many dating websites (eharmony is the worst) I like plentyoffish.com and recommend it highly.
Ahhh shut the **** up Markus (stan) you desperate pathetic ******** **** GEEK.
*FFlluuussshhhhhh!*
This is a great free online dating service I would recommend it.
Furthermore, the moderators, one Trappedonbayst in particular was online attempting to coax my friends 17 year old daughter into coming to CANADA and modeling for him. He is not a photographer in any way shape or form. They create fake profiles, in order to say what they want to people, how they really feel rather, on issues of race religon etc. And they randomly delete paid profiles if you happen to rub one of them the wrong way. I have a firm belief that MARKUS is one of those moderators in disguise. Also, on their privacy policy they BLATANTLY TELL YOU that they will read your mail.
Which in order to do so on ANY linux or windows server you have to purposely write code to do so, as out of box there are no functions for such a thing. So if they are taking your personal information then oh well.
Read the policy: “We reserve the right to monitor all advertisements, public postings and messages”
I’ve been stalked by this man ever since I pointed this out.
I guess it is true, nothing in life is free.
All dating sites have fake members.
All dating sites have members who are insincere liars who play mind games.
Many dating sites have forums that are moderated by prudish Nazi like people because they dont want negative comments affecting the viability of their site – so they are never free speech forums.
There is no difference between plentyoffish and any other dating site, except……you dont have to pay anything to contact someone. there are plenty of real people on there.
There is no point is saying one site has better quality of members, there is no way of measuring that. And most poeple on one dating site, usually have profiles on multiple dating sites. Wake up! Its just the same bunch of people!
The reasons for peoples failures on net dating sites is all to do with the members themselves, it has nothing to do with the site itself.
Those are the facts. I know.. ive been doing this shyte for a decade. And yes, im still single. IT doesnt work.
Markus Frind also goes by the name of Scott ( whom also has a very small and non-functional *****
)
The dating site ~Plenty Of Fish~ is the absolute worst dating site on the entire internet, and will give you nothing but grief.
Been in the pond for awhile, but mainly as a way to connect with the friends I made in the forum.
The negative stories you hear are TRUE about the moderator, Trapped on Bay Street.
I was banned after a first time warning for 2 months when in a forum thread about threads being deleted with no violations in them and I said the word ‘modgod’ in the sentence.
On my Ban page Trapped himself signed it ‘DemiGod’ and I was inciting trouble was the reason.
2nd Ban from Trapped came from a “serious paying member” who complained to him personally that I had veered off topic — She said she would have me banned— I think I did say ‘bring it’ lol
Well that one cost me a ban until Dec 31, 2012.
I have another friend coming up for his 5 year BAN parole this fall and will be able to post again.
When you have power hungry ‘modergators’ (technical term), cliques, hall monitors and advertising to a scale that POF does, it will turn people off… I think Marcus’s initial dream got lost in greedy translation…
see ya in 2012
I am sick and tired of the emails POF sends out every 3-4 days reminding you that “POF is larger than all other dating sites combined!” and explicitly stating your profile. It just reeks of them working too hard to try and retain users, but all it’s doing for me is turning me off the site. I’ve only been signed up for a few weeks now, but I’m considering leaving just because there is NO way to unsubscribe from these emails (I checked the FAQ and forums). Can you believe a moderator in the forum said to deal with it because most people who complained were just married folks who were worried about being discovered by their spouses?
Yes, THAT is what kind of site this is. They may be the largest now (I don’t know if they really are, but I’ll take their word for it) but a business that is so shamefully out of touch with its users is doomed to die. Mark my words, unless there is a major transformation with the site (and I’m not just talking about the unprofessional layout), it will soon be taken over by a better site.
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I don’t know about the forum’s, but it seems to me the real test is in the dating. I mailed 34 people, no response. None. Joined eharmony and within 3 days had contacted 8 people and heard back from 4. One is travelling 6 hours to meet me for dinner.
Maybe having to pay a membership draws people that are actually seriously looking. POF has a date by next Friday feature. There are only 3 women within 50 miles of me wanting to go on a date by next Friday. Wow. I bet they wouldn’t write back either.
I read a lot of complaints about Eharmony is why I was looking at the free sites, but I have to admit, they produce dates.
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The “delete all posts from user” feature is now in action at the forums.
Ask Markus about RandomVeteran..or KingRandomIV..that’s correct, Markus actually removed EVERY single post made by King Random IV from the forums…seems he has the “delete all posts from user” effect.
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Markus is still a fag… just did not want anyone to forget!
To quote Markus above: “…of those less then ~15 get banned a month”
If pof deletes only a few profiles each month then why don’t the moderators take the time and provide a simple explanation to the pof ex-member as to why their profile is being deleted?
That way they can make the necessary changes and recreate a new profile that is in-line with the moderators suggestions.
Have any of you guys tried posting your complaints on pofusers.com Markus admitted that he actually reads that site and has disciplined MODS based on the complaints posted on POFUsers.com
pofusers.com was recently hacked and they lost their database but markus helped them to get going again, it’s a brand new forum again so get in there and post your complaints before it gets flooded with arguing lol
I love http://www.pofusers.com am so glad it’s finally back up online again!
I was deleted or banned from POF because my idiot nephews posted a nude photo while I was gone. I emailed and asked if I was permanently banned, but of course no answer. I re-registered and was sent a verification of my new user name and password. I took the test and the whole nine yards. Long story short. It worked one time and now I am shut out again. I have some acquaintances that I would like to recontact. Can you help me in any way?
thanks
larry
If this some of you are the low quality of singles that POF is deleting from its gene pool, then it’s doing human kind a service. Sounds like the mods are doing their jobs. Some of you morons sound like nothing more than collateral damage from the lonely hearts club. With names like “POFSuckstheLittleOne”, any sane person has to wonder if its not so much nazi-moderating, but the bots figuring out that after-birth waste like this loser was mentally stuck at 15. If you aren’t even welcome in virtual reality, it’s not hard to see why you’re forced to troll for strange behind your monitors. Fucking morons. Just end it for yourselves already.
Plentyoffish is going down hill, the fact that sites like pofusers.com exists tells a familier story of users fighting back against unfair moderators.
Yeah some bitvh goes “If you don’t stop messaging me I’ll report you”cause she wasd talkin shit to me but when I was talkin shit back she says that? What a joke!! Anyway I didn’t but now a week later I have been deleted for the 3rd time….Bastards!!
oh yes, they delete for no reason… happened a lot to my friends so i never joined it, instead i looked for something better than pof, like lidatelove.com.
hey – I agree with the comments about verityone, splendere, and as.is. They certainly do show up wherever you go, and it seems they mostly travel in a pack.
i have lately developed the habit of checking to see what groups of posters always post to the same forums (i know, too much time on my hands) but they are some disturbing patterns with these three.
I can’t speak to the validity of specific complaints, but I do know FOR A FACT that POF mods/admin/MFWICs ban members arbitrarily. I think what happens is that the trolls who run the forums who continuously gang up on anyone who doesn’t agree with them will band together and go to the mods and complain. The mods ban people based on how many complaints they receive and after reviewing ONLY what posts the forum trolls send to them for review. They don’t take the time to actually investigate the SOURCE of the complaints. Whether or not the supposed “offender” is guilty is a nonissue. The complainers are just as offensive and are typically the ones who start the attacking. Many times the person defending themselves are the ones who get banned. My personal opinion is that mods will also ban members whose opinions they don’t agree with, too. They are obviously biased. They are rude. They are condescending. They are power-hungry NOBODIES who clearly get great satisfaction out of the supposed “control” they have to banish people from the site. (Sometimes for even 23 years or more!) LOL! Can you believe it? One thing I’ve learned about dating sites with forums is that they’re controlled and run by certain cliques of trolls, all of whom apparently synchronize their watches so they can all wipe each other’s respective asses at the same time. Many of them are, no doubt, friends of the site admin or mods and get leniency because of that. Indivdual thought is not encouraged, particularly by intelligent women. Decency is not encouraged. I believe in free speech, which means I have as much right to say how I think prostitutes/strippers/johns/etc. are “scum” as “they” have the right to say how they think they’re a “useful commodity” (or whatever). But on POF you’re not allowed to say that. Why? Because there are apparently those who are offended by that. Why would they be offended by that? You figure it out. Anyway, there are plenty of sites better than plenty of fish and I personally would be glad to contribute a small amount of cash per month to anyone who wants to start a site that’ll put ol’ Markus Fiend on the back burner…for EVER! Basically, with some exceptions, it seems evident that POF is a site full of misfits (particularly the women) who can’t seem to get any man to pay attention to them, so trolling and tattling (while stuffing their faces full of Twinkies, no doubt) is their way of garnering that attention. And it’s always the same ones. Everyone knows who they are, and what they do, yet nothing’s EVER done about them. Many of the reviews in here pretty much echo what I say. Now, Pandy, Ticket, etc., we can’t ALL be co-conspirators or liars, now, can we?
Sheila ! why you so angry ?
plentyoffish is shit. simple as that.my mother was on there first,plenty of replies & “friends”.she suggested i give it a go.set it all up.replied to a dozen or so females.never a reply and then i couldn’t log in.a page came up talking shit about my security settings….even though it was the same computer my mother used,who could still log in no problem.i set up yet another account and the exact same thing happened.i then realised the problem was the exact same problem as online dating sites that are all simply a 100% con AGAINST MALES.[ie: none of the women even exist.free sign up,then you’re flooded with women’s emails of interest but you can’t reply unless you pay,so you pay & reply and NEVER EVER EVER get any response.}plentyoffish is the same old shit.just winding men up.{advise just getting out & about to meet women}i then opened 3 or 4 accounts on plentyoffish…all fake & all different details.the pattern emerging was….if you reply to more than 10 females ads a day,you get fucked by plentyoffish….and can no longer log in.You’re penalized for maximizing your returns.
I guess because I am indian, my profile gets deleted everytime create one. No profane language. Straight friends request.
Everytime I create one, it is gone poof in 10-12 hrs.
I guess the owners are racists.
is there a way to ban this site from WWW?
I guess when the web belongs to people, people should have power to ban a web.
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there are much more free dating sites then that was mentioned in this blog , just put on google free dating sites and you will see a lot !
http://plentoffaliure.s2.bizhat.com/index.php?mforum=plentoffaliure
Above is another community not only for annoyed POF Users, but a lot about the truth of POF!
And if anyone has a grudge to hold with that site, it is me.
i would like to terminate my account
99.999% of the women on plenetyoffish will just mess you around or are fake. True there are tons of profiles on plentyoffish but that only makes it harder to find someone worth dating. You’re MUCH better off meeting women in real life.
There’s a new place to vent if you are one of POF’s dissatisfied members. The forums have turned out to be entertaining.
http://www.pofusers.com/pof-users-general-chat-f7/how-did-you-hear-about-pofusers-com-t387-20.html
This site isn’t so choked up with rules that they have sucked all the fun out of posting….take a look.
Guys check out this site that was created by banned pof users, its actually pretty funny the way they are slating the pof mods on there
http://wwww.pofusers.com
I checked the PoF site out, and decided to do a search (which you can do without signing up). For the state of NY, it showed there were 40+ pages of matches (since I didn’t narrow it down from the widest possible criteria). While flipping through pages I quickly noticed duplicate faces. I thought maybe I didn’t understand that their idea of “page” was a column, but returning back a page and then forward, I get different results than before.
Flipping through about 20 pages, I realize I’m only really seeing about 30 or 40 of the same accounts over and over in random patterns, sometimes the same account on several subsequent pages.
The site is obviously being padded to appear there are many more users than there really are. I’m betting for all of NY there are really only the 30-40 accounts.
I’m not too sure on Plentyoffish’s service but i do know that they’re by far the most innovative within the online dating world. Just look at the way they advertise as an example. Dating websites such as EHarmony and Match.com air bland commercials on network television targeting a “single mother/father”. If Plentyoffish did that, they’d bomb being that they’re by far the most popular portal for the college aged audience. They have been partnering up with popular musicians such as Lady Gaga and Akon over the last few months. They’re certainly thinking outside of the box in a very smart manner. I feel plentyoffish will outlast most of their competitors.
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This guy is a homophobic.
I’m a transgender. I tried to create a profile in his website and he deleted 5x in 2 days without any reason.
Certainly because I don’t fit in the male/female drop-down box.
Sad. The year is 2010.
Plenty of Fish is a cesspool of drunks, addicts, cons and people with criminal records. The forums are a joke,no one can speak their minds, even if they are respectful, if their opinions go against the favored event hosts who spend their whole lives on the goddamn boards. Very white, very right, over the edge to the Nazi side. The events are a bunch of old, fat, drunken 50-somethings who go to bars like they are in their twenties and hook up. It is gross. Young people use the site for hook-ups only. If you want anything more than that, head far far away fomr this slime bowl.
try going to http://www.pofusers.com its a forum where the banned end up.
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There are many problems with POF; one is the lazy owner who thinks he is god, and the fact that he can be with his on creation. If he spent more than 10 minutes a day on his website he might be able to see some of the problems these people are talking about.
I don’t know how much money he is making off his website and could really care less. Being a business own myself I know that if you care about your business you are going to spend more than 10 minutes a day with it no matter how much money you are making or how little it takes to run it.
By reading this article I have come to the conclusion that this guy Markus is pretty much a loser and a very lazy person that happen to fall into a bucket of roses for the moment. But like so many before him that has done the same thing he will lose it all one day and only have his memories to look back on.
If he really cared about POF he would fix the problem with the pictures. He would also pay his mods and have more people on his staff instead of bragging about how much little time he has to spend on it and how much money he is making.
I have used POF and like other I found it to be OK if you live in a large town such as Dallas. I’m sure there are fake profiles on the site, but most free and some paid site are going to have that. I’m a pretty good-looking guy and I got my fair share of responses from the women.
The problem you have with POF is the complaints that women send in. Lets face it, if it wasn’t for the women being on POF there would be no men, so they are going to cater to the women. You make one or more of these women mad, and off you go.
Now it’s been 3 years since this article has been written and pretty much nothing has changed on POF. People still get their profiles yanked off for little or no reason. And that tell me Markus is still pretty much a lazy bum.
fuck plentyfish and fuck u markus you fucking racist you wanna shut the people who speak their mind
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Last year I opened a new account w/POF after several years of not touching it with a 10,000,000 ft pole. Back in the earlier part of the naughts I used it here and there and had two or three encounters with single girls who were posting photos of themselves that were anything but representational of what they actually looked like – i.e. FAT. It’s like you show up for a semi-blind date and don’t even recognize the person you’re supposed to be meeting, despite the fact that she’s supposed to have at least one or two clear pics of herself on the site. Just a suggestion POF – for both men and women – make it a requirement that members post a FULL BODY shot of themselves taken in the last year or so. This way guys don’t get snookered into meeting girls who find it easier to put 10 year-old photos of themselves on the site, and vice-versa, long before they put on an extra 90 lbs. I know it’s almost impossible to police this, but maybe if you make it a rule 5 or 10% of the female population who approaches POF will be compelled to abide by it.
Now on to my recent profile experiences with POF – so far not too bad, with the exception of one glaring flaw – the site has an email hacker. A few days ago I emailed a girl in my immediate area who responded in kind. Then a day later I get this very weird sexually-charged message with a rose attached (roses are limited, optional attachments). Confused, I responded with raised eyebrows, only to get another message the next day from the same girl, only this time telling me she hadn’t sent the note with the rose! Sorry, but this is unacceptable. I don’t give an inch about the forums or the single mom population on POF. I do care quite a bit if the site is being compromised by some high school nerd who finds it funny to penetrate the site and send users lewd messages. How can I trust the site again? Can I ever really be sure a user is actually messaging me? Probably, but this kind of thing is more than enough to send me over to some other dating site. Finding decent single women to date is hard enough without this kind of crap.
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My experience with the plentyoffish forum is that if you don’t believe in total out of control socialism and feminism, you will be banned from the forum or your profile deleted. I was banned from the forum for saying “people are senseless for defending strippers”. I wasn’t targeting anyone as the way the forum has been filtered if you have some morals you are kicked off the site.
Call me a conspiracy theorist if you like, but this “free” site doesn’t seem to have the advertisers to pay for its cost and I suspect it is subsidized by feminist organizations.
i had an account up to 2 days ago i never once broke a pof rule n still had my accout taken now i have no contact with freinds on there and nothing back after writing to complain so pls do something about this and get back to me
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So hows your site revenue doing now, compared to when you were blabbing about it in The Province newspaper? Oh, what’s that sound? Another toilet flushing. Bub bye $$$ there Markus… the ugly, greedy, incompetent, crabfaced geek. A/K/A “ROTF”, whom is not fit to run a dating site.
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There is no point hanging on to POF. I got my account deleted for no reason and after that I never went back again. That was long back.
Now I have joined this free online dating site, http://www.verisoul.com
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Hey crabface! lmao!
Your newest dumbassed-desperate-jew-moron decision “income requirement” ain’t doin’ so well, is it crabface??
Remember what you were told a few years back, what would happen if you continued to F.U.C.K with good people on your shite POF dating site? Hmmm GEEK?? Yeeessss..SUCK on it. And more’s a comin’ crabface. Also hope you’re enjoying the forums on POFusers.com, and all the truth about you on there. As a matter of fact, we’re all sure that you are.
Sorry I haven’t been referring to you by your official name Markus. But any time an image of that ugly, lying, tiny-mouthed, Franken-foreheaded, butt-chinned crabface of yours comes to mind, it just screws it all up. So sorry about that.
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BEWARE !! plentyoffish.com will delete you for no reason… all the sudden you can’t log on… Most likely because some creep doesn’t understand the meaning of NO !! Do not trust this site owmer and his staff.. He says he runs it alone.. Not possible…
I have been on POF for years, probably five or more…
It is true, in the forums, you are policed and deleted.
I had a very long forum about paranormal experiences and ufos…
All gone, I didnt do anything wrong…
I just had my own opinions about religion and God and spirits, ghosts, etc. which differed from the moderator, whatever faith or satanic opinion they held…
Okay folks, here is my two cents…
I wrote in my profile I didnt want BBWs, (that is FATTIES)…
I asked why 90% of the women whom I was interested in SMOKE!
I also said I would like someone without six kids, preferably none, but ONE okay…
Deleted my profile…
I put on another. That lasted a day. Deleted…
Used a different email…
Deleted…
Tried a few days later, lasted fifteen minutes, Deleted…
Put up a picture of a guy who looked like me… Deleted…
This is what I think REALLY happens at POF…
Markass pays fatties with kids and no jobs to sit at home
and create fake profiles with good looking women…
You heard me… Pays them…
Every city has a few fatty with kids and no job who is online constantly policing the forums and the new profiles for her area.
That is why I tried different emails and different pics, because using the same pic got it deleted immediately, whereas a new one, different age and zodiac lasted longer…
That was until the warning from Markass, final warning.
I wrote him three long letters WHY… WHAT was I doing wrong.
TELL me which of your five rules I am breaking…NOTHING…
NO response to this day… I said I have only one profile…
NO multiples…NOT harrassing… NO nudity… NOTHING WRONG…
But NO response from Markass,just permanent IP ban…
Lasts 15 minutes, then profile gone…
SO… I noticed WHO is online… I work shift work, the babes who are online at all times of the day are the police. FAKE profiles abound… You will get a two word response… She is a fake…
You may find a nice woman on POF, but that will be someone like you who is REAL… FAKE profiles are to generate income…
Every time you sign in Markass makes at least $30 bucks I read somewhere…
Runs his kingdom and has a nice looking girlfriend/wife who married his ugly buttface for the money, like all other cuties…
Keep paying the fatties with kids to ban us non ass kissers who say exactly what we want Markass, you know how to run a business, but your fatties are power hungry autonomist nazis like you who love to reject people….
The same way they love to say two word responses on the fake profiles of the beautiful women they create… Probably five a day then relax with a pizza ordered to the door with the cheque from Hitler Markass…
Bet the fatties work on commission…
Love to attract hits and steal gorgeous women pics…
One looks like Fergie here in Edmonton…
My profile got deleted EVERY time I wrote her a letter…
DEAD giveaway Markass and Fatties…
Word will get around.
75% of women are smoking fatties never married with several kids on Plenty of Fatties who smell like fish and spend your adsense cash on pizza and diapers…
10% are divorced with grown up kids and are barflies loving their empty homes and getting laid after divorcing the hubby now that kids are grown and they got the house…
10% are just butt ugly, never married, never will be, and cant type or speak English…
The other 5% are real people who joined because they saw a fake profile and get hit on by married or men in relationships and get used and hurt and never come back…
Yeah, its a mad dash to the finish….
Banned from Plenty of Fat Flesh…
Definitely something rotten in that pile…
The other
I would also like to add that I passed the truth test on POF and PAID my 30 bucks a month to be a Serious Member…
AND I GOT DELETED A WEEK IN….
ALL BECAUSE I DARED TO BE SERIOUS AND SAY I WANTED A SLENDER WOMAN WITH NO KIDS>>>>
AWW…
Plenty of Females with Kids….
Cashed in on the right market markass…
If I see you in the street in Van Markass….
better hope its not a dark alley…
Banned from POF for being a Serious Member and wanting Long Term!
Lol…
I am not bad looking, but I DID meet one of these women because SHE dug me… She was ALWAYS online, so I knew she was a POF cop.
Well she had gorgeous butterfly kisses for me pics but hell, when I met her, she looked nothing like her pics, even had teeth missing and hairy armpits… YUK!
So when I saw her online all the time, I would write her and say, boy, I sure would like to meet the woman in the pics of your profile, and she would say, YOU live in a dreamland, wanting perfection….
I wrote back, nope, I just want to meet the woman in the pictures.
Deleted..
Banned.
F.U.C.K. U. markass running it all from your apartment…
You mean paying the hussies you pimp of fattness!
If I had ten million dollars I would feed the starving kids
not the fat mommies!!!
Banned from POFat
Think about it… Markass says in articles he is on vacation three months of the year…
Running it from his apartment… Lol…
More like POF is run by a few biassed fatties in each city…
Sounds like there are a few tubby guys who love to moderate for
free because they were probably pimply, overweight nerds in high school and do it for the power trip and freedom to read our emails… why else would you do it for free?
And why would a guy with ten million live in an apartment?
Probably needs the security because he has pissed off so many people who cannot contact the people they were befriending and in middle of a relationship and had so many favorites….
all deleted because some jealous rejected fatty decided if I cant have you, nobody can…
POF*U*C*K*S is not getting any more 30 dollars Serious Member payments from me, or 30 dollar sign in clicks…
Hide in an apartment Markass, ya impotent nerd…
Would your girlfriend/wife still be with you if you were broke?
I dont think so…
Too much Preparation H under your eyes and ya look like Markass.
……………………………………………………
ROTFLMAO!!!!!
Judgements a comin’ you fat, disgusting, ugly, Nazi mod fukks.
In the mean time, have anuther Twinkie.
lol!
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